Democratic centralism copied by Sinn Fein from Lenin's Bolshevik party?

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See Democratic centralism | politics Taoiseach Leo Varadkar claimed that Sinn Fein TDs have no individual power and must obey orders from the top. This sounds like Lenin's democratic centralism but without the limited debate Lenin allowed it sounds more like Stalinism where the party rubberstamped Stalin's decisions. In the extremely important decision to appoint Mary Lou as leader, TDs had to follow top down orders to accept her. Is Sinn Fein planning a hard left revolution that would be facilitated by its extremely centralised control? Irish voters may not know until it is sprung on them.
 


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See Democratic centralism | politics Taoiseach Leo Varadkar claimed that Sinn Fein TDs have no individual power and must obey orders from the top. This sounds like Lenin's democratic centralism but without the limited debate Lenin allowed it sounds more like Stalinism where the party rubberstamped Stalin's decisions. In the extremely important decision to appoint Mary Lou as leader, TDs had to follow top down orders to accept her. Is Sinn Fein planning a hard left revolution that would be facilitated by its extremely centralised control? Irish voters may not know until it is sprung on them.
Stalin's struggle to make the USSR more democratic is an interesting subject however it would be lost on most Irish people.

The Shinners do not worry are just another globalist capitalist party which will do globalist capitalist things.
 

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Stalin's struggle to make the USSR more democratic is an interesting subject however it would be lost on most Irish people.

The Shinners do not worry are just another globalist capitalist party which will do globalist capitalist things.
Stalin sent millions to their deaths doing slave labour in Siberia. That's Stalinist democracy for you.
Sinn Fein would screw the economy with reckless populist spending policies to win votes. So it is anticapitalist and antibusiness. The SF idiotic rent freeze proposal is typical. Google the slums of the South Bronx borough of New York for photos of the dystopian wasteland created by very rigid rent controls in the 1950s and 60s.
 
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Stalin sent millions to their deaths doing slave labour in Siberia. That's Stalinist democracy for you.
Sinn Fein would screw the economy with reckless populist spending policies to win votes. So it is anticapitalist and antibusiness. The SF idiotic rent freeze proposal is typical. Google the slums of the South Bronx borough of New York for photos of the dystopian wasteland created by very rigid rent controls in the 1950s and 60s.
WTF? Bonkers.
 

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It is just Pat doing this week's IBEC laundry. Every week without fail there is a warning from Pat about attempting to tax the business interest in some way and a semi-religious notion that anything non-corporate is automatically Stalinism.

Great the way SF are putting the wind up Ireland's IBEC slaves.
 

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Stalin sent millions to their deaths doing slave labour in Siberia. That's Stalinist democracy for you.
Sinn Fein would screw the economy with reckless populist spending policies to win votes. So it is anticapitalist and antibusiness. The SF idiotic rent freeze proposal is typical. Google the slums of the South Bronx borough of New York for photos of the dystopian wasteland created by very rigid rent controls in the 1950s and 60s.
Hmmmmmmm........ a little like the current San Francisco / Silicon Valley economic wasteland, with their all their commie style rent controls, which far exceed anything we have here! That’s really holding them back!
 

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It is just Pat doing this week's IBEC laundry. Every week without fail there is a warning from Pat about attempting to tax the business interest in some way and a semi-religious notion that anything non-corporate is automatically Stalinism.

Great the way SF are putting the wind up Ireland's IBEC slaves.
Vague generalisations combined with verbosity substitutes for argument above.
 

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Hmmmmmmm........ a little like the current San Francisco / Silicon Valley economic wasteland, with their all their commie style rent controls, which far exceed anything we have here! That’s really holding them back!
Few average Americans can afford to buy houses there. Average salaries are well above $100,000 for the professionals. Homelessness is rampant as typical where there are strict rent controls or NIMBY oriented planning permissions.
 
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Stalin's struggle to make the USSR more democratic is an interesting subject.....
"Hey, Police! My next door neighbour Ivan Ilyich is a counter-revolutionary/kulak/trotskyite/wrecker etc etc. I heard him criticizing our great leader last night in the hallway with his wife"

"Thanks, Comrade, We'll take care of that bad element post haste"

People Power in action!
 

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"Hey, Police! My next door neighbour Ivan Ilyich is a counter-revolutionary/kulak/trotskyite/wrecker etc etc. I heard him criticizing our great leader last night in the hallway with his wife"

"Thanks, Comrade, We'll take care of that bad element post haste"

People Power in action!
I know you can bring a whore to culture but you cannot make her think, but anyway I am in a charitable mood......

Stalin and the Struggle for Democratic Reform

It is interesting, and a bit disturbing, that Russians often will have a low enough view of Lenin and Trotsky while admiring Stalin while in the case of Paddy we find exactly the opposite, what is up with that?
 

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See Democratic centralism | politics Taoiseach Leo Varadkar claimed that Sinn Fein TDs have no individual power and must obey orders from the top. This sounds like Lenin's democratic centralism but without the limited debate Lenin allowed it sounds more like Stalinism where the party rubberstamped Stalin's decisions. In the extremely important decision to appoint Mary Lou as leader, TDs had to follow top down orders to accept her. Is Sinn Fein planning a hard left revolution that would be facilitated by its extremely centralised control? Irish voters may not know until it is sprung on them.
You do realise Varadkar is a political opponent of SF so he may not be telling the truth.
 

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You do realise Varadkar is a political opponent of SF so he may not be telling the truth.
The top down appointment of Mary Lou as leader without a leadershio contest proves Varadkar's point. Who were the shadowy figures in the background who decided the leadership?
 

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I know you can bring a whore to culture but you cannot make her think, but anyway I am in a charitable mood......

Stalin and the Struggle for Democratic Reform

It is interesting, and a bit disturbing, that Russians often will have a low enough view of Lenin and Trotsky while admiring Stalin while in the case of Paddy we find exactly the opposite, what is up with that?
What is the key point of all those boring links you expect p.ie readers to wade through?
 


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