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Denial of social welfare benefit applications undermines social safety net,risks collapse in consumer spending


patslatt

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Denial of social welfare benefit applications undermines social safety net,risks collapse in consumer spending

Fianna Fail opposition spokesman on social welfare Willie O'Dea noted recently that large numbers of social welfare applications denied initially are granted on appeals after long delays of up to six months,which suggests the original denials were spurious and done for budget cost savings. If so,some enterprising barrister might have a case for a class action lawsuit for wrongful denials and compensation for the applicants left destitute.

If the public gets the impression that waiting periods for social welfare are six months,many people may be panicked into a massive jump in savings and consumer spending could be hit hard or even collapse with dire consequences for the economy.

Because the social safety net of social welfare and unemployment insurance is taken for granted,the government may forget a lesson of economic history-that social safety nets helped put an end to economic depressions.

America in 1929 had no social safety net and as soon as people scented an economic downturn in the stock market crash, they stopped spending,triggering the Great Depression. Within weeks,Henry Ford was forced to shut down the huge Detroit car plants where production was concentrated as car sales collapsed across the country.
 
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Fianna Fail opposition spokesman on social welfare Willie O'Dea noted recently that large numbers of social welfare applications denied initially are granted after long delays of up to six months,suggesting the original denials were spurious and done for budget cost savings. If so,some enterprising barrister might have a case for a class action lawsuit for wrongful denials and compensation for the applicants left destitute.

If the public gets the impression that waiting periods for social welfare are six months,many people may be panicked into a massive jump in savings and consumer spending could be hit hard or even collapse with dire consequences for the economy.

Because the social safety net of social welfare and unemployment insurance is taken for granted,the government may forget a lesson of economic history-that social safety nets helped put an end to economic depressions.

America in 1929 had no social safety net and as soon as people scented an economic downturn in the stock market crash, they stopped spending,triggering the Great Depression. Within weeks,Henry Ford was forced to shut down the huge Detroit car plants where production was concentrated as car sales collapsed across the country.

Ah so it's just public servants you hate then ?, failed the entry intelligence test or something......
 

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Fianna Fail opposition spokesman on social welfare Willie O'Dea noted recently that large numbers of social welfare applications denied initially are granted after long delays of up to six months,suggesting the original denials were spurious and done for budget cost savings. If so,some enterprising barrister might have a case for a class action lawsuit for wrongful denials and compensation for the applicants left destitute.

If the public gets the impression that waiting periods for social welfare are six months,many people may be panicked into a massive jump in savings and consumer spending could be hit hard or even collapse with dire consequences for the economy.

Because the social safety net of social welfare and unemployment insurance is taken for granted,the government may forget a lesson of economic history-that social safety nets helped put an end to economic depressions.

America in 1929 had no social safety net and as soon as people scented an economic downturn in the stock market crash, they stopped spending,triggering the Great Depression. Within weeks,Henry Ford was forced to shut down the huge Detroit car plants where production was concentrated as car sales collapsed across the country.
People in need of social welfare can't afford to save and if they can shouldn't be in receipt of social welfare.

That said, those in need of it and surviving for months prior to having it granted are often living off existing savings, if they have them, or worse still credit, and accumulating debt they simply cannot repay through a lack of choice. Both of these options are detrimental to the health of the individuals and therefore the economy as a whole.
 

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They can go to the community welfare officer in the meantime if they are stuck pat.

I suspect you know this and are being your usual mendacious self.
 

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Delays in granting Social Welfare could also dissuade people on Social Welfare from taking employment as they may fear long delays in getting their Social Welfare restarted if they find their new employment ending
 

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People in need of social welfare can't afford to save and if they can shouldn't be in receipt of social welfare.

That said, those in need of it and surviving for months prior to having it granted are often living off existing savings, if they have them, or worse still credit, and accumulating debt they simply cannot repay through a lack of choice. Both of these options are detrimental to the health of the individuals and therefore the economy as a whole.
Will the community welfare office pay emergency welfare to some one while waiting for social welfare payments to come through?
 

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Ah so it's just public servants you hate then ?, failed the entry intelligence test or something......
could he be a self hating publick servant ?
 

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Will the community welfare office pay emergency welfare to some one while waiting for social welfare payments to come through?
Yes - the CWO can award SWA but only if you meet the conditions and satisfy a means test. If it's a couple and one partner is in full-time employment, you will not get SWA while your JB claim is being processed.
 

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Perhaps this 'delay' in payments has something to do with the vast numbers of immigrants who are now freeloading off the ethnic irish txapayer.

Why should we be so hasty to give freebie hand outs to such an invasion of parasites, unfortunately the indigenous irish are now paying dearly for the the idiotic policies of our last government.

What was it that 'fat arse' Mary said about Ireland needing immigrants to keep our economy going?? :cool:petunia
 
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tirnacrann

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They can go to the community welfare officer in the meantime if they are stuck pat.

I suspect you know this and are being your usual mendacious self.
That is an irrelevance , why are 2 out 3 applications then approved on appeal , its part of the government agenda to force people out of the country and off social welfare .
 

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That is an irrelevance , why are 2 out 3 applications then approved on appeal , its part of the government agenda to force people out of the country and off social welfare .
Gotta love the conspiracy theorists.
 

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That is an irrelevance , why are 2 out 3 applications then approved on appeal , its part of the government agenda to force people out of the country and off social welfare .
Do people provide additional information on their appeals?
 

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Do people provide additional information on their appeals?
Yup. According to the Appeals Office annual Report 17% of appeals lead to a revised decision before the appeal goes ahead.

And over 50% are disallowed so our conspiracy theory friends are once again making sh1t up.

It's not that difficult to find.

But pat can't be arsed, he'd rather sling bile.
 

tirnacrann

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Do people provide additional information on their appeals?
I dont know , but by the time the appeal is heard they are probably on their uppers anyway , how many thousands will have given up and just gone abroad , conspiracy hardly , this government will do everything to protect themselves / public sector / elites and keeping the unemployment level around 15-18% by any means is part of that .
 

tirnacrann

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Yup. According to the Appeals Office annual Report 17% of appeals lead to a revised decision before the appeal goes ahead.

And over 50% are disallowed so our conspiracy theory friends are once again making sh1t up.

It's not that difficult to find.

But pat can't be arsed, he'd rather sling bile.
You have a link or did you just get it from blueshirt hq ?
 
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