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Department of Justice asks nicely for failed asylum seekers to leave...and doesn't follow up

cyberianpan

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Ireland's approach to asylum seekers is primarily one of bumbling incompetence ... the Department for Justice has very little by way of nuts and bolts administrative competence ...yet it employs plenty of administrators

Whenever asked about their failings...the Sir Humphreys huffily reply "that's a policy issue" (code talk for Ministerial/ political decision)

Issue is that such incompetence means there will be abuse of the asylum system - by economic migrants and terrorists

It's related as well to the "Direct Provision" scandal ...which is mainly down to the Sir Humphreys penchant for shuffling papers, getting 20 signatures...and if the Sir Humphreys are ever challenged on that...they say...you got it "It's a policy issue"

But the tradeoff for being slothful take it easy zero-risk people...is they will never betray their masters

Frances Fitzgerald is a fêted dimwit ...she was patently insincere when I heard her speak perhaps 2 decades back...and remains so today...can we please, please, please ...catapult her from Justice ?

Thousands of failed asylum-seekers are unaccounted for
More than one-third of the failed asylum-seekers the State decided to deport in the last 15 years are unaccounted for.
And the true number of those whose whereabouts are unknown may be much higher than the official figures suggest, as the status of those who agreed to leave the State voluntarily before their deportation orders were executed was not checked to ensure they had left Ireland.
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Releasing the figures to The Irish Times, the Department of Justice said that when a failed asylum-seeker becomes the subject of a deportation order they are responsible for removing themselves from the State.

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National PRSI card, required for any work or license or utility bill would fix this in double quick time.

Set up a database with everyone on it.

Temporary ones issued to those still in the system, and withdrawn from those who fail in their endeavors.
 

Betson

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Total idiots.

Not the type of report the IT leave the comments open on.
They have restricted their comments anyway to subscribers these days , they were over run with people mocking them for their ridiculously over the top political correct slant on the majority of their opinion pieces.
 

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They have restricted their comments anyway to subscribers these days , they were over run with people mocking them for their ridiculously over the top political correct slant on the majority of their opinion pieces.
I saw that but it didn't actually seem to help them.
 

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They have restricted their comments anyway to subscribers these days , they were over run with people mocking them for their ridiculously over the top political correct slant on the majority of their opinion pieces.
One of the ringleaders of the Commentariat ...an IT Grandee who shall remain unnamed ...shared multiple platforms with a certain Muslim in Dublin ...helped said gentleman gain a column ...alongside another very questionable gentleman

Said IT Grandee then denounced both of them 5 years later as "Islamic extremists not representative of Irish Muslims" ...neither did he allude to his earlier championing of them...nor did anyone cotton on

I'm not even bothering to name the IT Grandee ...as I don't think anyone gives a rats arsé ...interestingly ...he remains the favored member of the Commentariat for all aspirant/current Sir Humphreys ...and of course...as they were the eejits who funded the two feicers

I don't mind crooks so much...it's the incompetence of the crooks who (try) to run this country...none of us has any clue what brainfart will become their next mission

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Arse....arse makes it past the swear filter, cYp. No need for the sine fada.
 

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This isn't really surprising, given the state's already abysmal record when it comes to asylum seekers.

Presumably there is someone whose responsibility it was to set the current policy (is it still the policy, or will it be changed?). Is it even possible to say who that person is?
 

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Good to see we are so well prepared for the coming storm of migration caused by war, religion and climate change. Now is not the time to sit on your hands... but the tumbleweeds blow through goverment buildings while the poor dears rest from their labours.
 

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Australia has the right way of handling situations like this and we would be well advised to start to follow their tough example.
 

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One of the ringleaders of the Commentariat ...an IT Grandee who shall remain unnamed ...shared multiple platforms with a certain Muslim in Dublin ...helped said gentleman gain a column ...alongside another very questionable gentleman

Said IT Grandee then denounced both of them 5 years later as "Islamic extremists not representative of Irish Muslims" ...neither did he allude to his earlier championing of them...nor did anyone cotton on

I'm not even bothering to name the IT Grandee ...as I don't think anyone gives a rats arsé ...interestingly ...he remains the favored member of the Commentariat for all aspirant/current Sir Humphreys ...and of course...as they were the eejits who funded the two feicers

I don't mind crooks so much...it's the incompetence of the crooks who (try) to run this country...none of us has any clue what brainfart will become their next mission

cyp
Is he from Cork? Oh wait all the Grandees are from Cork!
 

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Ireland's approach to asylum seekers is primarily one of bumbling incompetence ... the Department for Justice has very little by way of nuts and bolts administrative competence ...yet it employs plenty of administrators

Whenever asked about their failings...the Sir Humphreys huffily reply "that's a policy issue" (code talk for Ministerial/ political decision)

Issue is that such incompetence means there will be abuse of the asylum system - by economic migrants and terrorists

It's related as well to the "Direct Provision" scandal ...which is mainly down to the Sir Humphreys penchant for shuffling papers, getting 20 signatures...and if the Sir Humphreys are ever challenged on that...they say...you got it "It's a policy issue"

But the tradeoff for being slothful take it easy zero-risk people...is they will never betray their masters

Frances Fitzgerald is a fêted dimwit ...she was patently insincere when I heard her speak perhaps 2 decades back...and remains so today...can we please, please, please ...catapult her from Justice ?

Thousands of failed asylum-seekers are unaccounted for



cyp
She may well be as you describe, but with respect that is beside the point.

It seems we have a policy to deport certain people. No Minister - of whatever hue - can be expected to travel around the country looking for Mr X or Ms Y or proof that they were deported.

The hired hands exist to execute policy, but, yet again are lamentably lax in doing so.

And as they have cleverly created a system wherby everything is dome in the Ministers name, it follows that if its not done, its the Ministers fault.

Never theirs. And even if it were, they would have difficulty remembering any of it - a la Neary.......
 

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no irish politician can wrap himself in the irish Flag during election time if he has repeatedly failed to defend the rights of the irish people from failed asylum seekers.
 

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This isn't really surprising, given the state's already abysmal record when it comes to asylum seekers.

Presumably there is someone whose responsibility it was to set the current policy (is it still the policy, or will it be changed?). Is it even possible to say who that person is?
Of course wrankers like yourself are of the opinion that all asylum seekers who arrive here should automatically be given refugee status, notwithstanding their **** and bull stories.
 

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The army should be enlisted to speed up deportations. Screw the Irish Times whingers. Metaphorically of course.
 

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Of course wrankers like yourself are of the opinion that all asylum seekers who arrive here should automatically be given refugee status, notwithstanding their **** and bull stories.
That isn't true, of course, but don't let facts get in the way of your prejudices.
 

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Deportation of failed asylum seekers should be fairly straightforward. There shouldn't be appeals, it should be a case of an applicant having their families with them at their hearing and if they aren't granted asylum they are transported immediately to either a departing flight to their own country or to a locked facility from which they're deported within that month. This farce of letting migrants wander freely around the country, not knowing who they are, what they may have done or what crimes they might commit here is ludicrous. As is is one of the national newspapers is carrying a story about the thousands of euros per day that it's costing to provide interpreters in Court to translate when they're before a judge for committing a crime.

We a legal bill for 40 million euro for the past 5 years alone and it's costing millions to maintain the 4 thousand odd that have been here for 5 years or more, wtf are they doing here for 5 years?
 

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We need an immigration and naturalisation task force similar to what they have in Australia. Failed asylum seekers have no place in our country and we should not be pandering to the wishes of organisations like the Immigrant Council of Ireland who if they had their way would transport the whole continent of Africa to our country.
 

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It is now clear beyond argument that the Asylum System in this State has been abused to the hilt

- and the Government is just too afraid of the PC wailers

- to ever sort it out to stop any more chancers making use of it

We should abolish the Right in Law to seek 'Asylum' here

No one has to travel to an island off the coast of Europe to claim Asylum....
 

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the government couldnt give a crap.
no doubt these people asylum seekers will get set up in below minimum wage jobs and live their lives as best as they can.
 


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