Depression on the rise - is this the real measure of austerity?

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Maybe people wanted decent healthcare, a home for their family and justice more than they want same sex marriage and abortion - who would have thought????
Or it could just be that you're desperate to have a pop at FG for anything out there that isn't perfect, and this just happens to be your latest hobbyhorse.
 


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We have it better than ever yet there is no drop in depression. I think it is caused by modern media showing the richest, best looking etc so people feel like losers.

Men are responsible for providing for their family and the more money they make, the younger and better looking the wife they take. Young men who aren’t successful feel pressures that they can’t deal with so they kill themselves or live with depression. No idea if there’s a solution.
 

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We have it better than ever yet there is no drop in depression. I think it is caused by modern media showing the richest, best looking etc so people feel like losers.

Men are responsible for providing for their family and the more money they make, the younger and better looking the wife they take. Young men who aren’t successful feel pressures that they can’t deal with so they kill themselves or live with depression. No idea if there’s a solution.
the sad thing is why a young man should feel like a failure at 20 when he has at least 20 years to build a life for himself. kids get a lot of mixed messages these days, anti male characteristics are promoted as normal.
 

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the sad thing is why a young man should feel like a failure at 20 when he has at least 20 years to build a life for himself. kids get a lot of mixed messages these days, anti male characteristics are promoted as normal.
Agreed, I think the military, boxing and other masculine activities can help men, especially working class men. Making society more feminine and homosexual isn’t helping , young working class men who have, through their own fault, messed up their prospects at 20 aren’t seeing the road to redeeming the situation.
 

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There's a lot of moaning about the plight of young men. Poor dears feeling like failures at 20, having to be protected from the media in case they'd see a rich person, unable to redeem themselves, etc,etc.. FFS that's pathetic.

Weaklings who could pose as the strong in the past as long as they had women to subjugate. In times past, one hardly ever heard of women killing themselves, having to push out babies year after year whilst putting up with useless or near useless husbands.
 

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Or it could just be that you're desperate to have a pop at FG for anything out there that isn't perfect, and this just happens to be your latest hobbyhorse.
healthcare, housing and decent policing are far, FAR from perfect old chum.

All that spinning will make ya dizzy dear fellow.
 

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We have it better than ever yet there is no drop in depression. I think it is caused by modern media showing the richest, best looking etc so people feel like losers.

Men are responsible for providing for their family and the more money they make, the younger and better looking the wife they take. Young men who aren’t successful feel pressures that they can’t deal with so they kill themselves or live with depression. No idea if there’s a solution.
I have aunts and uncles who bought their houses in 1982 in what is, apparently, now a "multicultural hub" of Dublin. Dublin 7.

They paid the equivalent of €100,000 for a two-bed house. The equivalent house on the same road now goes for approximately €300,000 - €350,000. Strangely enough, real wages haven't kept pace with that inflation.

Since the 80s, we've had the female emancipation movement which has been a boon for society, no doubt. However, the real consequences for working-class men has been harsher than, say, for the real perpetrators of institutionalized sexism. That is to say the lads who are from wealthier backgrounds where women really were treated as glorified chattel and where they served the role of what we perceive as "housewives."

A look at sociologist studies regarding hunter-gatherer socities - i.e. societies where wealth is rather limited - showed a more egalitarian divison of labour than seen in industrialized societies. Hilariously enough, it appears that wealthier societies are more prone to traditionally sexist constructs than those with less capital.
There's a lot of moaning about the plight of young men. Poor dears feeling like failures at 20, having to be protected from the media in case they'd see a rich person, unable to redeem themselves, etc,etc.. FFS that's pathetic.

Weaklings who could pose as the strong in the past as long as they had women to subjugate. In times past, one hardly ever heard of women killing themselves, having to push out babies year after year whilst putting up with useless or near useless husbands.
Yeah, because young men are very much the ones suffering. You need only traverse the threshold of any third-level institution. The disproportionate representation of women at the highest levels of education is baffling and were that figure pointing towards the opposite, then there would be uproar among the liberal types.

Weaklings. Seriously? You're aware that women kill themselves in remarkably low numbers compared to men? That the support networks for women are infinitely better developed and better organised? That 55% of domestic abuse is committed by women? A woman acts in a tyrannical way and people lionize it as empowerment, a man does the same way and he is derided as a chauvinist and as being anachronistic.

Oppressed men and "oppressed" women are equally in need of protection from abusers, both male and female. Feminism envisioned equality among the sexes. Instead, it's become some jacobinesque nightmare where the minority have devoured the majority. Now, "weak" men must be subjugated while the true abusers continue abusing regardless.
 

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I have aunts and uncles who bought their houses in 1982 in what is, apparently, now a "multicultural hub" of Dublin. Dublin 7.

They paid the equivalent of €100,000 for a two-bed house. The equivalent house on the same road now goes for approximately €300,000 - €350,000. Strangely enough, real wages haven't kept pace with that inflation.

Since the 80s, we've had the female emancipation movement which has been a boon for society, no doubt. However, the real consequences for working-class men has been harsher than, say, for the real perpetrators of institutionalized sexism. That is to say the lads who are from wealthier backgrounds where women really were treated as glorified chattel and where they served the role of what we perceive as "housewives."

A look at sociologist studies regarding hunter-gatherer socities - i.e. societies where wealth is rather limited - showed a more egalitarian divison of labour than seen in industrialized societies. Hilariously enough, it appears that wealthier societies are more prone to traditionally sexist constructs than those with less capital.


Yeah, because young men are very much the ones suffering. You need only traverse the threshold of any third-level institution. The disproportionate representation of women at the highest levels of education is baffling and were that figure pointing towards the opposite, then there would be uproar among the liberal types.

Weaklings. Seriously? You're aware that women kill themselves in remarkably low numbers compared to men? That the support networks for women are infinitely better developed and better organised? That 55% of domestic abuse is committed by women? A woman acts in a tyrannical way and people lionize it as empowerment, a man does the same way and he is derided as a chauvinist and as being anachronistic.

Oppressed men and "oppressed" women are equally in need of protection from abusers, both male and female. Feminism envisioned equality among the sexes. Instead, it's become some jacobinesque nightmare where the minority have devoured the majority. Now, "weak" men must be subjugated while the true abusers continue abusing regardless.
Stop pandering to weak men. That's not going to help them. Instead tell them to man-up that the culture has correctly changed, that there aren't many women left that you can subjugate, whose strength you can sponge off. It's sink or swim on your own steam from now on. Some of the biggest moaners I've come across regarding social changes like gay rights are weak men who leech off their strong and superior wives.

Sure women abuse men but nowhere near as much as men did to women in the past and yet women didn't kill themselves in large numbers.
 

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Stop pandering to weak men. That's not going to help them. Instead tell them to man-up that the culture has correctly changed, that there aren't many women left that you can subjugate, whose strength you can sponge off. It's sink or swim on your own steam from now on. Some of the biggest moaners I've come across regarding social changes like gay rights are weak men who leech off their strong and superior wives.

Sure women abuse men but nowhere near as much as men did to women in the past and yet women didn't kill themselves in large numbers.
Western civilization has done quite well of our own steam. Pretty much everything you own, drive or otherwise use has been invented by men. You are welcome.
 


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