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Dermot Ahern's new censor bans 32 year old film


rubensni

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The Minister for Blasphemy has continued his crusade to return the country to the 1950s by appointing someone similarly authoritarian as the film censor.

Ger Conolloy (who previously worked in marketing - an industry hardly renowned for its positive influence on society) has banned you from watching the re-release of some obscure 1970s torture porn film called I Spit on Your Grave.

The Press Association: 1978 horror film banned by censors

That we even have a film censor's office in the 21st century is a bad enough joke, but when this nice little earner for accountants, ex county councillors, and friends of Fianna Fáil ministers (censors earn over €70k) moves from the arena of helping to guide parents to banning art, it becomes time to take action.

I for one will now be watching I Spit on Your Grave. I don't want to watch it (it sounds genuinely awful), but when the government forbids me, as an adult, from watching a film, the only patriotic thing to do is to watch that film.

IMDb.com | Day of the Woman (I Spit on Your Grave) (1978)
 
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Congalltee

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Another armchair patriot? You feel compelled to watch a movie of a woman gangraped? Make sure you tell your mother, sister (one can infer you have neither a girlfriend, wife or daughter) or any other female of your courageous act of principle. The censor's office earns its keep by keeping such outrages banned - it can lead to (moral) blindness of teenage boys and idiots using the flag as cover for their acts.
 

rubensni

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Another armchair patriot? You feel compelled to watch a movie of a woman gangraped? Make sure you tell your mother, sister (one can infer you have neither a girlfriend, wife or daughter) or any other female of your courageous act of principle. The censor's office earns its keep by keeping such outrages banned - it can lead to (moral) blindness of teenage boys and idiots using the flag as cover for their acts.
I'll be grand; the censor saw it, and he turned out OK ;)
 

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Agreed - paying someone 70K to officially ban something I could get if I wanted.

No need for it - although I don't believe we live in a nanny state as such, this type of thing gets my goat. I'm over 18 and I'll choose whatever I want to watch.

One poster mentioned gang rape above - well let me say, there are films that cover every single thing that happens in life, so why would gang rape be any different? Jodie Foster played a part in 'the accused'. Maybe this film is graphic, I don't honestly know. If it is graphic, is it any more graphic than what you would see on xhamster dot com or redtube dot com?

Again, why both your back side banning it? It's like a token gesture or symbolic act. crazy!
 

ICallely

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Does sound like a dreadful movie, to be honest. I wonder what is the next movie to be banned? The Life of Brian?
 

Mugabe

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Does anyone want to come over to my house later and watch "The Passion of St Tibulus".

QUOTES:)

(1) Father Dougal: Do you remember that bit when St. Tibulus, he tried to take that banana off the other lad?

Father Ted Crilly: That wasn't a banana, Dougal.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoAGxQw0biM"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]

Now we have it for real:)
 

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Agreed - paying someone 70K to officially ban something I could get if I wanted.

No need for it - although I don't believe we live in a nanny state as such, this type of thing gets my goat. I'm over 18 and I'll choose whatever I want to watch.

One poster mentioned gang rape above - well let me say, there are films that cover every single thing that happens in life, so why would gang rape be any different? Jodie Foster played a part in 'the accused'. Maybe this film is graphic, I don't honestly know. If it is graphic, is it any more graphic than what you would see on xhamster dot com or redtube dot com?

Again, why both your back side banning it? It's like a token gesture or symbolic act. crazy!
I agree, stick an over 18 cert on it, the censors role should be exclusively to detemine age suitability, never to ban.
 

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I agree, stick an over 18 cert on it, the censors role should be exclusively to detemine age suitability, never to ban.
+1 The power to ban anything should be removed from his office (or any office for that matter). The sole decision should simply be on the matter of age classification.

Censorship is an insult to adults and is another example of how disgusting and infantilizing state paternalism can be.
 

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Imagine the country if Dev2 actually became Taoiseach. Jaysus the man should be dressing like Jackie Healy Rae he's so 1950s. You'd think this was a Mary 'Opus Dei' Hanafin initiative.
 

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+1 The power to ban anything should be removed from his office (or any office for that matter). The sole decision should simply be on the matter of age classification.

Censorship is an insult to adults and is another example of how disgusting and infantilizing state paternalism can be.
I agree with Kevin and Cato banning films is nonsense that should not be happening in the 21st century.
 

rubensni

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+1 The power to ban anything should be removed from his office (or any office for that matter). The sole decision should simply be on the matter of age classification.

Censorship is an insult to adults and is another example of how disgusting and infantilizing state paternalism can be.
Exactly, but do we even need the office? The private sector in the US (MPAA) and the UK (BBFC) effectively classify films to help guide parents and protect children. I see no reason why the Irish film industry should not be able to provide a similar service here at no cost to the taxpayer, but for whatever reason Colm McCarthy's recent review of Public Service Numbers and Expenditure (which the masochists in the media gleefully called an bord snip) didn't even look at the IFCO.
 

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There is little point in trying to explain the principles of liberty to the Irish establishment. They just don't get it.

But on the level of sheer practicality isn't this ban just going to mean many more people will watch the film than would have done so otherwise. Isn't the ban then just completely self-defeating in its own terms?
 

ICallely

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I wonder is this a political move (of course I know it is, but.......) to reposition the Party further to the right in an effort to shore up the traditional vote?
They would be looking two or three elections down the line.

G.
 

Destiny's Soldier

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That film was shown on one of the satellite channels earlier this year. It could have been been on Horror.

I saw a fair amount of it and I found it unremarkable. In typical 70's style the dialogue is retarded and the acting simplistic. There are hundreds of films made in a similar vein.

The film is not majorly graphic at all and nothing to get carried away with. The Accused would have been more disturbing for the rape scene in my view. I think what may have motivated the censor is the calculated vengence from the woman victim.

She pretends after the rape that she is unperturbed and one by one lures the attackers indivually to a location where she kills them off. I think there is a few scenes of ball cutting. Maybe our comely maidens dancing at the crossroads might have their brains badly subverted in that they might start thinking impure thoughts of revenge.

Like most horror films, I found this one unrealistic and forgettable.

To surmise: The scenes are not sexually explicit and neither is the rape scene. This is acting after all.

There are hundreds of films 10 times worst than this one not banned.

Is it as bad as for example Man Bites Dog? Not at all.
 

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This is ridiculous. aHerr Dermot is turning more totalitarian by the hour. There is no correlation between horror / action / thriller films and real life violence. In fact they may even help to suppress a bit the potential violent tendencies in people.

The spookiest horrors were made in the 70s such as the Wicker Man, Suspiria, Don't Look Now, The Shining (1980) etc.
 
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