Did Greens Walk Because FF rejected Climate Change Bill?

Destiny's Soldier

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It is incomprehensible that the Greens would have stuck with Fianna Fail though thick and thin over the past 3 1/2 years only to walk out when they were to launch their life's work, their raison d'etre, the "The Climate Change Bill".

John Gormely Tweeted last week that he was bringing the bill to cabinet on Tuesday 16th only to walk out by the weekend.

Word is that Fianna Fail "agreed with the bill in principle" but wouldn't run with it.

This was the last straw for the Greens and the IMF at the door wouldn't have bothered them remotely. Thus the statement from Mary Hanafin that the Greens didn't have the country's best economic interest at heart.

The likely outcome is that the Greens will have cut a deal with Labour who have already championed their own Climate Change Bill published in Feb 2009 and rejigged by Liz McManus in Oct 2010. The Climate Change Bill envisages a raft of new powers to "green" committees that will dictate and oversee the workings of every Government Dept including the dept of Finance.

We can deduce that the Greens have switched allegiance to the Labour Party who will be the Kingpins in the new administration. It is quite possible that Green Party members who win or lose their seats will be brought in from the cold and the cold opposition benches to run these new green committees dictatorship.

The Greens are dead long live the Greens!

Enjoy the frosty winter ahead everyone. ... -8 in November already.
 


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Oddly the hatred between the Greens and FF it seems date back to the appointment of Geoghegan Quinn and her refusal to take de Burca into her cabinet. When Quinn refused to honour a commitment that she allegedly gave to Cowen to take de Burca, and when Cowen refused to tackle Quinn on it, the Greens decided that FF were a bunch of charlatans that couldn't be trusted (wonder was it only then it dawned on them?). It was made worse when Quinn uttered some garbage about de Burca's experience being not relevant while at the same time Quinn packed her cabinet with people that had no experience whatsoever of her portfolio.

After that, suspicion prevailed all the time and so now, the latest episode.
 

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I think the more blatant than usually lies last week were the final straw and the small matter of the IMF coming in to rule the country.
Anything else is speculation.
 

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The OP looks plausible on first reading, except for this bit:
The likely outcome is that the Greens will have cut a deal with Labour who have already championed their own Climate Change Bill published in Feb 2009 and rejigged by Liz McManus in Oct 2010...

We can deduce that the Greens have switched allegiance to the Labour Party who will be the Kingpins in the new administration. It is quite possible that Green Party members who win or lose their seats will be brought in from the cold and the cold opposition benches to run these new green committees dictatorship.
DS, do you really think that Labour envisage the possibility of the Greens winning seats? (I suppose Trevor has an outside chance, but that's it, surely?)

What's in it for Labour? Don't they have enough friends of their own itching to get a slice of the action?

You think they might hire some Green ex-TDs/senators/advisors "in the national interest", or, rather, "in the global interest"?
 

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Yep no doubt. The Greens holy grail is the Climate Change Bill.
This is the reason why they pulled the plug.
 

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What's in it for Labour? Don't they have enough friends of their own itching to get a slice of the action?

Labour want the Greens to pull the plug now while they (Labour) are pollling at
historic highs.
 

Baron von Biffo

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The Greens haven't walked. They're still in government. The notion that their stunt is part of some plan with Lab is off the wall. There wont be a new government before a GE and there wont be any Greens after it.
 

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There may not be any Green TD,S left after next election but if next Government passes
C.C. Bill the Greens will be appointed onto the new Committe and Commission created
by C.C. Bill.
 

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The greens have no morals, integrity or standards, you can't believe anything they say.

They say they are a socialist party but so were the Nazis, they are an ideology driven party, with little regard for human consequences.

I certainly wouldn't discount any critics of the Greens
 

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What is the view of the new ConDem pact in the UK on their Climate Change Act?
 

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What is the view of the new ConDem pact in the UK on their Climate Change Act?


Well givin the fact that we are clearly in a cooling trend since 1998
and in particular since 2007, I would describe it as an Act of lunacy.
 

PAD1OH

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What is the view of the new ConDem pact in the UK on their Climate Change Act?


Well givin the fact that we are clearly in a cooling trend since 1998
and in particular since 2007, I would describe it as an Act of lunacy.


maybe you should give cameron call. you clearly know your stuff.
 

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Oddly the hatred between the Greens and FF it seems date back to the appointment of Geoghegan Quinn and her refusal to take de Burca into her cabinet. When Quinn refused to honour a commitment that she allegedly gave to Cowen to take de Burca, and when Cowen refused to tackle Quinn on it, the Greens decided that FF were a bunch of charlatans that couldn't be trusted (wonder was it only then it dawned on them?). It was made worse when Quinn uttered some garbage about de Burca's experience being not relevant while at the same time Quinn packed her cabinet with people that had no experience whatsoever of her portfolio.

After that, suspicion prevailed all the time and so now, the latest episode.
Ah so it was all about "jobs for the boy" (girls), as I suspected. We won't be able to wipe out the entire FF PP, but we can certainly aim to wipe out the Slime Greens.
 

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I think it was Gogarty mentioned the failure to ban corporate donations as a matter of particular regret.

Very realistic, that one was!
If Labour have any integrity they will pursue that one in the new Dail.
Except of course for subscriptions from the Brothers!
 


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