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Did media let us down badly


Tomas Mor

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Did media fall down on its job in last decade , boasting of Celtic Tiger, Bertie lifestyle (Sindo) and contaminated by property supplements revenue. Shame on them,they have serious case to answer
 


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Media in this country with very few exceptions let us down badly on the reporting of warning signals in ther economy. How much was this dictated by revenue from property supplements and hand outs from the governing parties. We still have it a bit about musical chairs in cabinet and who will replace wee Willie. As if it matters, during war there were only about eight in cabinet. In recent years this has grown to 15, maximum constitution allows. Bertie even appointed 20 ministers of state (this is now back to 15); so every FF TD bar 2 had a job as minister, jnr. minister, or chairman of a committee, one for everyone in the audience.And for a country the sixe of Manchester. We are worse to fall for it
 

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They did. Whole sections of the media acted as a cheerleader for FF and the PD's disastrous economic policies
 

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Bertie tried to look after everyone. All the elected members as Ministers or Ministers of State. If they didn`t get one of these positions they got Committee positions. His cronies like Joe Burke ( ho ho ho ) and Cecilia ( ho ho ho ) appointed to quangos not because of any particular skill :) but because they were friends.

What did the electorate do. Appoint him for another 5 years.

We all deserve this depression for being a nation of gombeens and for accepting all the cutbacks without a fight. We are muppets to FF.

When there is 600,000 unemployed and a National Debt of €200 billion will we react then. PROBABLY NOT.
 

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See the media jump on bandwagon on issues from the economy to bishop cover ups, but where were they when things were happening, where were the investigative journalism? Most of them are still at the local news level.
 

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Does wee willie winky still have his own column in The Sindo or is he on gardening leave ?
 

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What do you expect from there media here?The media here only lackeys for Zanu-FF.
The media are the mouthpieces and the propaganda machine of Zanu-FF and the few
members of the media who did warn about the the recession were told "go and top
themselves" by the high priest of Zanu-FF Bertie Ahern.
 

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If they were as diligent about Zanu FF as they are about the goings on in Church of Rome, maybe we could have been "saved". Do ye remember the reporting of Cowen singing off lorry in Offaly and how the meeja fell for it.
 

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And the interview in his summer holiday caravan :)

We`ll all be living in caravans soon :)
 

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Dont forget Bomber Harris and his ass on a senate seat, Caligula style.
 

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Did media fall down on its job in last decade , boasting of Celtic Tiger, Bertie lifestyle (Sindo) and contaminated by property supplements revenue. Shame on them,they have serious case to answer
The World's media is still lying about such pivotal events 9/11, 7/7 bombings in London, 3/11 bombings Madrid, both Bali attacks and many of the sectarian attacks in Iraq etc. The role of the media is to distract and to control discourse generally.
It serves as mind control device.
 

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Did media fall down on its job in last decade , boasting of Celtic Tiger, Bertie lifestyle (Sindo) and contaminated by property supplements revenue. Shame on them,they have serious case to answer

au contraire.

to paraphrase a certain cardinal " they were doing their job!"

dont confuse what you THINK their job is with what they get paid to do.

the media stopped being about journalism and seeking the truth LONG ago. in fact theyre more likely to describe themselves as "working in media" "media operators" or "opinion writers" than jouralists nowadays.

its one of the reason theyre pissed scared of the internet. no fee here means no favor.

hows a professional meant to make a buck out of that with its "doing it for the public good" mentality? :)

he who pays the piper calls the tune, that old adage is worth remembering when you hear ANYONE commentating on anything. irish media or otherwise. TBH if anyone takes anything away from the last 10 years i hope its that they use their brains more often when making judgement calls on whats put in front of them.
 
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It's payback time!

Remember that? Indo group has been in FF's pocket since 1997. It's still there.
 

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Absolutely.

They all had their faces in the trough
 

Design for Life

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au contraire.

to paraphrase a certain cardinal " they were doing their job!"

dont confuse what you THINK their job is with what they get paid to do.

the media stopped being about journalism and seeking the truth LONG ago. in fact theyre more likely to describe themselves as "working in media" "media operators" or "opinion writers" than jouralists nowadays.

its one of the reason theyre pissed scared of the internet. no fee here means no favor.

hows a professional meant to make a buck out of that with its "doing it for the public good" mentality? :)

he who pays the piper calls the tune, that old adage is worth remembering when you hear ANYONE commentating on anything. irish media or otherwise. TBH if anyone takes anything away from the last 10 years i hope its that they use their brains more often when making judgement calls on whats put in front of them.
Excellent point and my sentements exactly.

Media isn't some sort of independent, benevolent entity with a moral conscience that looks out for our well-being and seeks to purport the "truth" at every turn. It's a vested interest body. Our media's a glorified propaganda machine. There are some good journalists that do good work and not everyone's morally bankrupt but we've got big problems with our fish-bowl mentality and with public opinion being too easily led around the park by the papers.

RTE is another matter. The week of the budget last year instead of doing a programme on it the night before they had on some kitsch tabloid "expose" of social welfare crime. And then the week after some similarly awful programme on petty crime. Two full pogrammes devoted to crimes of the poor and hardly anything about the relationship between government, bank CEOs, developers and builders.
 

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Excellent point and my sentements exactly.

Media isn't some sort of independent, benevolent entity with a moral conscience that looks out for our well-being and seeks to purport the "truth" at every turn. It's a vested interest body. Our media's a glorified propaganda machine. There are some good journalists that do good work and not everyone's morally bankrupt but we've got big problems with our fish-bowl mentality and with public opinion being too easily led around the park by the papers.

RTE is another matter. The week of the budget last year instead of doing a programme on it the night before they had on some kitsch tabloid "expose" of social welfare crime. And then the week after some similarly awful programme on petty crime. Two full pogrammes devoted to crimes of the poor and hardly anything about the relationship between government, bank CEOs, developers and builders.
+1 While every other bastion of the establishment has been interrogated and toppled, the media alone seem invulnerable to this scrutiny. Naturally, why would they turn the harsh spotlight on themselves?

They throw the occasional sop to "investigative reporting" but usually---and there have been honourable exceptions---only when it is safe to do so. So you had this obsession with Haughey in the media in the Noughties, revisiting his abuse of power in the 80s, while still currying favour with the new power-brokers and sycophantically offering them platforms from which to posture and prance----just as they had done with Haughey when he was the top dog who could have made life difficult for them if they dared to ask the key questions......
 

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Stop buying titles belonging to the Irish Independent then.

They sell close to 1m papers on a Sunday.
 

realistic1

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Stop buying titles belonging to the Irish Independent then.

They sell close to 1m papers on a Sunday.
Yes thats all very well telling us not to buy Independant media titles, can you suggest a decent publication? I think Independent media owns 80% + of all publications?
 

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It began under Haughey - you had John Waters writing about Haughey being part of gen-u-ine Irish culture, while Garret Fitzgerald and Dublin 4 "only ran a economy, did not run a country" etc. etc. What a load of b*****ks.

What Haughey got away with, Ahern only applied it to the maximum degree. He had his tame cheerleaders talking him up. Even while the likes of Waters got disillusioned, he had shown that a brass neck, confusion and downright lying was the route to success in Irish politics.

What scares me is how not only the media, but bankers & civil servants got carried away in the self-adulation. It was clear by 2003 that the Celtic Tiger was over - most exporting companies were shutting up shop and disappearing overseas. Ahern and his crew created a bubble economy without adequate scrutiny from media or opposition. He had so wrapped himself in the mantle of popularity that those who were not dazzled were afraid.
 

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