Did we Lose Out From Having No Roman Invasion Here?

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What did the Romans ever do for Hibernia??

Think of all the baths, orgies, slavery and sewerage we could
have had??:p
 

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What did the Romans ever do for Hibernia??

Think of all the baths, orgies, slavery and sewerage we could
have had??:p
Yeah but they would have had user charges on them until Paulus Murphcix brought an end to all that and it fell to rack and ruin!
 
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We lost out on experiencing the industrial revolution, which left this country as an impoverished priest infested backwater for much of the 20th century.
 

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Bugger didn't they. What do you think xtianity was? We were invaded twice. And the first invasion was psychological and had a lot to do with the extension of the Roman Empire which went metaphysical when a certain cult climbed into its empty shell and invaded psychologically rather than physically.

History looks very different when you think of the Decline of the Roman Empire not in Gibbons' terms but when you consider that the Roman Empire may have changed dramatically when it was blended with a middle eastern cult.

Bear in mind that it was only the last pope who stopped the little custom of wearing the red slippers of the Caesars. And the title 'Pontiff' is taken directly from the title 'Pontifex Maximus' which was the chief priest of the Roman Empire's temple of Jupiter.

There is a reason why various lay organisations carry the title 'Legion of...'

People who say the Roman Empire never reached Ireland have a very limited view of what the Roman Empire was at various stages.
 

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They called us 'Hibernia', the land of Winter and never bothered coming here in anger, it seems?
Did we actually lose anything because they never invaded us?

Roads, sewer systems, public baths, a calendar and concrete for a start.

5 Things the Romans gave us | History TV

10 Things The Romans Did For Us - English Heritage Blog

BBC Bitesize - How did the Romans change Britain?
Simple answer, how did all the other countries which were never conquered by the Romans fare? Scandinavia, Northern Germany, much of Eastern Europe etc. Roman Empire was a long time ago.

 

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Bugger didn't they. What do you think xtianity was? We were invaded twice. And the first invasion was psychological and had a lot to do with the extension of the Roman Empire which went metaphysical when a certain cult climbed into its empty shell and invaded psychologically rather than physically.

History looks very different when you think of the Decline of the Roman Empire not in Gibbons' terms but when you consider that the Roman Empire may have changed dramatically when it was blended with a middle eastern cult.

Bear in mind that it was only the last pope who stopped the little custom of wearing the red slippers of the Caesars. And the title 'Pontiff' is taken directly from the title 'Pontifex Maximus' which was the chief priest of the Roman Empire's temple of Jupiter.

There is a reason why various lay organisations carry the title 'Legion of...'

People who say the Roman Empire never reached Ireland have a very limited view of what the Roman Empire was at various stages.
You're just talking about religion though, aren't you?
 

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Well I suppose, we have The Blueshirts!:rolleyes:
 

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Be serious, lads!

Surel, were we not just waiting till the Roman froth had subsided? Then the likes of Columbán and his tribe could infest continental Europe and tell them what they were missing?

Pity them there Romans wouldn't entirely fall into line.

Or, as an alternative view: there's something wonderful about the spread of knowledge. It goes in all directions.

By the way, take a look at the outlines of medieval Irish structures. The turds always flow downstream, towards the lesser orders. Doesn't matter if it's Celtic or Anglo-Norman.
 

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We didn't need anything from the Romans except perhaps wine and some precious metals

We were pretty well self sufficient

Its undoubtedly true though that some level of transhumance existed

Obviously the greatest Empire on our doorstep could hardly be ignored
 

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We didn't need anything from the Romans except perhaps wine and some precious metals

We were pretty well self sufficient

Its undoubtedly true though that some level of transhumance existed

Obviously the greatest Empire on our doorstep could hardly be ignored
Tranhumance as in driving cattle to higher ground in summer?
 

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Yeah but they would have had user charges on them until Paulus Murphcix brought an end to all that and it fell to rack and ruin!
Spartacus would have been such a sh1t film if it was based around the life of old Paulus the slave leader.
 

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People who say the Roman Empire never reached Ireland have a very limited view of what the Roman Empire was at various stages.
The Roman Empire is the Roman Empire. It is simple as this, at no stage in history was Ireland ruled from Rome (or Byzantium).

Even if you stretch it beyond the clean break after the end of the Empire to the Holy Roman Emperors or even the Popes it still isn't the case.
 


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