It appears most of us are in agreement here that there is a huge problem, but I really don't believe this is a northside problem that wouldn't happen in other neighbourhoods. I see it everywhere, from north to south and in the countryside. There's graffitti and litter all over the beach area of ritzy Greystones any weekend. I agree with the poster a page back or so who said this is a hangover from our past tradition of viewing rules as irrelevant because they were imposed on us by colonials. I'd go even further and say that there was an attitude of "it'll never be ours so to hell with it, we don't have to care about it" when it comes to any kind of property other than our own little patch of front lawn. While the hoodie contingent may be the worst offenders, they wouldn't engage in that behavior if we didn't tacitly allow it. Shop keepers (chippers, ice-cream sellers, etc.) apparently feel no responsibility to clean up outside of their premises. I've seen cigarette butts dropped from the hands of educated wealthy southsiders just as much as they drop from the hands of disenfranchised louts. There are no curfews (as there are in most other countries) that make it an offense for a crowd of youngsters to hang out on the beach late at night when nobody is patrolling. I'm not a grumpy old woman. I love to see young people out having fun, but there's something very wrong with a society that tolerates a situation where we pick ourselves gingerly over the used condoms and discarded needles and broken whiskey bottles day after day and do nothing about it.