Display of Codeine based products to be banned in 2011.

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Proposals to ban display of codeine - The Irish Times - Tue, Dec 22, 2009


Products like Neurofen Plus, Solpadeine, and codeine based cough medicines will be banned from public display next year. These products will be stored out of sight in the dispensary, and the purchaser will be advised on the appropriateness of taking such products.

This action is being taken because codeine is a controlled drug and can be addictive. However statistics state that in 2008, 84 people are registered as addicted to codeine out of the total adult population of Ireland.

If these products are so harmful, and patients have to whisper their need to buy them to the pharmacist, who will then give a big lecture on the dangers associated with them.... well then these products should be the subject of a doctor's prescription IMV.

I realise that codeine products can be addictive, but I'd suggest that the vast majority of people understand this and take the product for pain in short doses. Those who take more than the safe dose, or for long periods may have a problem, but hiding them in the dispensary is not going to stop that. They are legally available over the counter despite not being on view.

However I think it will make people think again about buying them if it is easier to buy a box of paracetemol or aspirin.

What do you think of this measure?
 


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Another dose of nanny-statism from idiot bureaucrats with nothing better to do. Seriously, at what point will people tell them to mind their own business?
 

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However I think it will make people think again about buying them if it is easier to buy a box of paracetemol or aspirin.
I don't think it will. People go into the pharmacy to by soplpadine theyre going to buy solpadine. It's no more difficult to day "I want a box of solpadine" than it is "I want a box of panadol".

It's silly legislation and it's a waste of time and money. It's this kind of nonsense we could do without.
 

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I don't think it will. People go into the pharmacy to by soplpadine theyre going to buy solpadine. It's no more difficult to day "I want a box of solpadine" than it is "I want a box of panadol".

It's silly legislation and it's a waste of time and money. It's this kind of nonsense we could do without.
I agree with you. However, if you want buy a box of Solpadeine/Neurofen Plus etc. you MUST get a lecture from the pharmacist on the appropriate use, after asking for the product. That consultation in full view of other customers in the pharmacy might put potential purchasers off. Similar guidance and lectures willl not be given for the box of paracetemol, an overdose of which can kill you.
 

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I agree with you. However, if you want buy a box of Solpadeine/Neurofen Plus etc. you MUST get a lecture from the pharmacist on the appropriate use, after asking for the product. That consultation in full view of other customers in the pharmacy might put potential purchasers off. Similar guidance and lectures willl not be given for the box of paracetemol, an overdose of which can kill you.

I'm assuming if you're one of the 84 unfortunate codine addicts a brief word from Mary in too much makrup isn't going to kill your buzz much. But me with my mild back pain will have to endure it for no good reason.

Silly.
 

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It says on the back of the box how to use the pills- why get a lecture from some pharmacist?
 

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It says on the back of the box how to use the pills- why get a lecture from some pharmacist?
It's not even a pharmacist, it's some young wan who sells eyeshadow most of the day telling you not to take too many. Silly.
 

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Just ban everything and be done with it.
 

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It says on the back of the box how to use the pills- why get a lecture from some pharmacist?
Addiction to codeine based drugs is becoming widespread. Many people do not read packaging and assume that because it's sold without prescription they don't need to.
Try buying them over the counter in France, or many other EU countries.
 

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It's not even a pharmacist, it's some young wan who sells eyeshadow most of the day telling you not to take too many. Silly.
I know. It all gets back to the pre-conscious belief that people need to have their hand held and their laces tied, are fundamentally incapable of making their own decisions, and that the rest of the world is somehow responsible for the consequences of private decisions. Of course, the other side of the coin is that every pointless patronizing law that is introduced can appear in bullet point form in some candidates list of "achievements" when it's election time.
 

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I wish to thank the government for yet again attempting to protect me from myself
 

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Addiction to codeine based drugs is becoming widespread. Many people do not read packaging and assume that because it's sold without prescription they don't need to.
Try buying them over the counter in France, or many other EU countries.
If people don't read the label, that's their own look out- it is not a matter for the state and I would suggest that it does not rank that highly when compared to our actual problems. Also, the simple reality is that the overwhelming majority of people who take pain killers do so for legitimate reasons and should not be inconvenienced just because 84 people have a self-control problem.
 

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If people don't read the label, that's their own look out- it is not a matter for the state and I would suggest that it does not rank that highly when compared to our actual problems. Also, the simple reality is that the overwhelming majority of people who take pain killers do so for legitimate reasons and should not be inconvenienced just because 84 people have a self-control problem.
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The sale of medicines is regulated by the state. Solpadeine et al could be made prescription only, as they are in other jurisdictions.
Given their general usefulness as well as their extra associated risk it seems a reasonable compromise to allow them as otc accompanied by advice.
 

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I posted this on another similar thread, but it is ppropriate and its a good laugh

Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, then goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.



Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2010 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.



Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2010 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.



Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.



Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school..

1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with a school buddy that has a headache also.

2010 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.



Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2010 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU filesclass action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.



Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2010 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.



Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2010 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
 

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Isn't that what the Codex Alimentarius is about- we sort of - unless of course rubber stamped by our Great (unaccountable) Masters from on high!!!




Permission to breathe air, your majesties?
Is that the Happy clappy Yes Lisbon Side kids these days?! ;)
 


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