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Doctors (in Ireland) are paid too much, says new EU report


Beaker

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As if this was news to even the dog on the street......

However, its good to have international credance to the scandelous bleeding of cash from our health service by hospital doctors, especially the 'royalty' class, called consultants.

Doctors here are paid too much, says new EU report - National News - Independent.ie

Among other things, the report states "The Commission, which highlights that Irish hospital doctors earn twice what their UK counterparts get, wants the Government to recognise more degrees from Europe and further afield. The HSE recognises far fewer degrees than the UK, for example."
 

YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

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As if this was news to even the dog on the street......

However, its good to have international credance to the scandelous bleeding of cash from our health service by hospital doctors, especially the 'royalty' class, called consultants.

Doctors here are paid too much, says new EU report - National News - Independent.ie

Among other things, the report states "The Commission, which highlights that Irish hospital doctors earn twice what their UK counterparts get, wants the Government to recognise more degrees from Europe and further afield. The HSE recognises far fewer degrees than the UK, for example."
I hope the troika stays a little longer in the country and puts the boot in where our politicians (your vested interests at heart) continue to cave in miserably
 
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kkkkkkkkkk

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the dodgy doctors and the legal leeches

are fingered in this report
just like the priests, the truth will out
these people who have been sucking the money from the taxpayers for years,
will now be outed

we are a very ignorant people
but education and the truth will help us get these leeches
 

Gurdiev

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Does this report open the door for the government to finally tackle this ridiculous situation ?
 
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Dylan2010

GPs are the real scam artists. 60 quid for 10 minutes work, cash in hand. How much tax to they pay?
the restriction of entry into the profession is a major bug bear which causes this and to compound the artificial restriction of entry into the profession there seems to be (and no offense) more and more part time women which restricts supply even more.
 

YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

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Good question. Most GPs are, I imagine.
if so you can bet they write off everything: practice expenses, travel, car, training, office, charitable contributions, energy savings home improvement credit, investment and tax expenses (no pun intended). The actual tax rate paid for self-employed GPs is most likely converging towards 0%.
 

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The legal system also comes in for criticism, with the Commission saying that nothing less than modernisation of the judicial process and "the entire judicial system" is needed.
 

Clanrickard

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t more and more part time women which restricts supply even more.
This has been mentioned before but nothing is done about it. Under a HSE contract doctors also has to do house calls. All of the local female doctors refuse to do so. In my town the nearest doctor is 45 minutes away after they close the practice for the evening.
 

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Among other things, the report states "The Commission, which highlights that Irish hospital doctors earn twice what their UK counterparts get, wants the Government to recognise more degrees from Europe and further afield. The HSE recognises far fewer degrees than the UK, for example."
This article is complete BS and the real report will never appear because the content is fabricated and it's pretty obvious:

Consultants earning twice what UK counterparts get?

HSE salary: €116,207. AFter tax: €4,747/month. No private practice allowed. Top of salary scale: €121,270.

UK NHS salary: UK£74,504. After tax: £4,165.91. (€5,037.29 ) Private practice allowed.


At current exchange rates (today in january 2013), a UK NHS consultant starts at a net income of €5,037.29 and an Irish HSE consultant gets €4,747 monthly. perhaps the "european commission" (probably a few journalists in a pub) need new calculators because the maths really doesn't add up.


Second reason why this report is complete fabrication and exists only in the mind of the the journalists (time for a new anti-doctor article I presume):

Ireland should be "recognising more degrees from Europe". Since 2005 Ireland is fully compliant with regulation 2005/36/EC (that EC means EUROPEAN COMMISSION regulation). Any medical doctor or specialist is automatically entitled to register and set up practice in Ireland. Any German specialist who apparently earns to little can work in privately tomorrow if they so want. There is no restriction whatsoever on any EU doctor working in Ireland, and all medical degrees and specialist training are automatically recognised.


Like I said, this article is about a non-existent European Commission report. Ireland is already fully compliant with the EC regulations on degree recognition and salaries for consultants are less than the UK NHS salaries. A shoddy piece of journalism and clearly complete lies.

The Irish electorate have shown for the past few years a complete hatred of doctors, which is why most new graduates want to leave, and despite jobs being open to any EU doctor since 2005, no-one wants to come to Ireland.
 
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Sister Mercedes

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Ireland hates doctors, which is why they have all left.
Then why are all the Hospital Consultants in Ireland Irish Doctors?

Not much sign of international competition for talent there, despite the huge pay and self-serving hours.
 

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GPs are the real scam artists. 60 quid for 10 minutes work, cash in hand. How much tax to they pay?
you've obviously never been to see a consultant neurologist
 

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dont know of any consuntant in Ireland that does not have a private practice, on their check up day following a precedure, - its how are getting on, still taking the tablets, come back in 4 weeks, and €120 on the way out, 50 to 60 patients for the day, just pay Secretary to collect money and a small rent for a room.
 
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