Donegal Disaster for Fine Gael

Panopticon

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Fine Gael lost both votes and percentage share of the total vote in the Donegal South West by-election. This is allegedly the new government-in-waiting, with its boosters telling us that the next government will be Fine Gael's to choose, perhaps including Labour, perhaps Fianna Fáil, perhaps even Sinn Féin. However, on this kind of result, it will be losing seats while left-wing parties and independents gain them.

Glass-half-full types used to say that Enda Kenny's popularity problem was based on an urban/rural cleavage, described as a Dublin/real Ireland cleavage by his more eager backers. By this theory, Fine Gael might slip in popularity in some parts, but it would hoover up FF votes outside the capital and the cities as compensation, because Labour, Sinn Féin and independents can't organise in rural areas. I was a glass-half-full type. It's now clear that this was wrong. What on Earth can be done in the next two months to prevent stagnation?

(As you can see from my history I am no closet Fianna Fáiler or Socialist and I will probably be voting blue next time around.)
 


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FF\FG are two heads of the same beast.
 

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Fine Gael lost both votes and percentage share of the total vote in the Donegal South West by-election.
They have had worse disasters in Donegal - I think North East had Blaney + 2 FF at one stage. Its a bad result but Donegal is different, anyway let SF crow for a while, our gang did it after George Lee's victory, though I suspect Doherty will hang around longer:lol:
 

myhonorisloyalty666

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Donegal is not a barometer of the country.
In fact the Brits can have it back.
It would make the border far prettier on a map.
 

anfieldabff

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Not that bad a result really, FF beaten into 3rd place. Doherty was never going to be beaten in Donegal.
What really whets my appatite is the hammering that FF are going to get in the GE.
There will be absolute carnage, hope sweary Mary gets the chop, they will never risk running two candidates now.!!
 

Desperate Dan

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the blue shirt hierarchy will move on kenny again over xmas
They have plenty of time before the election March or April. petunia petunia petunia
 
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Donegal is not a barometer of the country.
In fact the Brits can have it back.
It would make the border far prettier on a map.
About £7 Billion in bailout funds would about do it....

As a bonus, they get Sweary Mary instead of Nick Clegg...:)
 

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In the GE I would agree but given the hero status of Doherty you could have put in the best vote getter FG have and they'd still have been down. This was a one horse race and one he didn't even have to pass the post to win.
 

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Fine Gael lost both votes and percentage share of the total vote in the Donegal South West by-election. This is allegedly the new government-in-waiting, with its boosters telling us that the next government will be Fine Gael's to choose, perhaps including Labour, perhaps Fianna Fáil, perhaps even Sinn Féin. However, on this kind of result, it will be losing seats while left-wing parties and independents gain them.

Glass-half-full types used to say that Enda Kenny's popularity problem was based on an urban/rural cleavage, described as a Dublin/real Ireland cleavage by his more eager backers. By this theory, Fine Gael might slip in popularity in some parts, but it would hoover up FF votes outside the capital and the cities as compensation, because Labour, Sinn Féin and independents can't organise in rural areas. I was a glass-half-full type. It's now clear that this was wrong. What on Earth can be done in the next two months to prevent stagnation?

(As you can see from my history I am no closet Fianna Fáiler or Socialist and I will probably be voting blue next time around.)
"Emigrate gombeen and take the rest of your gombeen class with you,leave Ireland to the people who love it for what it is and dont expect to become rich on the backs of its working class.You and those like you have spent 80 odd years destroying everything that Ireland was meant to stand for".
 

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They have plenty of time before the election March or April. petunia petunia petunia
FG finished 2nd in a very difficult election with lots of local and historical reasons where a strong performance would not be easy. If you were to choose a more challenging constituency it would be hard to find one. Well done FG and Barry O'Neill.
 

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I tend not to defend FG (they're a dislikeable incompetent version of FF only slightly less corrupt given fewer opportunties), but this result cannot be regarded as a disaster for FG. It is not even a bad day. There were far fewer voters bothering to turn out on a frosty day, but the FG vote fell by a mere 3000, when they did not have their standard bearer running. Doherty won this by-election when he won in the High Court. Not even O Snodaigh's neo-facist charge on the gates of government buildings would cost him votes (it is however a shame that he won by so much, as now we will not know how either the FF or FG transfers would have split between the other and him).
 

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Mc Brearty's transfers were interesting, more to SF than to FG suggests little leakage of FG support to Labour in DSW, if there were, they would have returned as transfers. Maybe it will be possible to get people to look at policies when they're finished kicking the cat.
 

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FG finished 2nd in a very difficult election with lots of local and historical reasons where a strong performance would not be easy. If you were to choose a more challenging constituency it would be hard to find one. Well done FG and Barry O'Neill.
Anywhere in Dublin, perhaps?

When did this myth begin; that the western seaboard is somehow the hardest place in the world for Enda Kenny to attract support?
 

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The collapse of the FF vote in DSW was to be expected both in FP votes and transfers but what was suppriseing was the drop in support for FG down from GE and with the climate in politics very hostile to Gov one would assume the alternative would gain support. Are the people of Donegal telling the rest of the country what they think of all the main parties!
 


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