Don't "lose the plot" about politicians' travel, says Michael Martin

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Michael Martin has come to the defence of John O'Donoghue and has warned against "losing the plot" when it comes to cutting back politicians' travel expenses.

According, to Martin it's not all first-class flights, limos, five star hotels and days spent at Ascot. Politicians have to do some work too, you know.

Martin is quoted in the Irish Examiner -

Mr Martin defended Mr O’Donoghue, saying he was a "very good" Ceann Comhairle and had been a "very effective" minister for arts, sport and tourism.

Networking and travel were crucial parts of that portfolio, Mr Martin added, citing Cheltenham’s importance to the Irish equestrian industry as an example....

"I just worry that we can lose the plot a bit in terms of the wider importance of travel — and it’s not easy either, by the way. There’s this notion that it’s all perks, but [in] my own experience, it’s constant, it’s 16-hour days."
Mr Martin said O'Donoghue is in a difficult position - not because he's been caught living like a rock star at taxpayers' expense - but because, as Ceann Comhairle, he cannot sully his office by getting embroiled in a debate about expenses.

One has to wonder, exactly who is in danger of losing the plot here?

Martin warns against ?losing the plot? on political travel | Irish Examiner
 
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he cannot sully his office by getting emmbroiled in a debate about expenses.
Junket Johnny is finding plenty of other ways to sully his office
 

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FOI for Mickey Martins foreign travel anybody?

We should put a fund together to do FOI requests ? €50 quid each and we can decide who we go after?
 

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"As a country that exports over 80% of everything we make, be it services or merchandise, we need to be known abroad, we need to have a presence abroad, and we need to push Ireland Inc.

Read more: Martin warns against ?losing the plot? on political travel | Irish Examiner

How does JOD (and his wife and secretary and probably his little heir) on the piss in every major race course in the UK help push "Ireland Inc"?
 

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Pressure mounts.
 

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Is John O'Donoghue allowed to step aside temporarily from his position as Ceann Comhairle to explain these issues? What is the process of resigning and appointing a CC?
 

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"As a country that exports over 80% of everything we make, be it services or merchandise, we need to be known abroad, we need to have a presence abroad, and we need to push Ireland Inc.

Read more: Martin warns against ?losing the plot? on political travel | Irish Examiner

How does JOD (and his wife and secretary and probably his little heir) on the piss in every major race course in the UK help push "Ireland Inc"?
Presumbaly, people were so gobsmacked when the saw JOD, an unimportant Minister from a tiny little country, prancing around like a Saudi prince they were curious to come here and see, for themselves, the muppets who were bankrolling him.
 
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What function did John O'Donoghue carry out at Cheltenham that is so important to the Irish Racing Industry that he spenf €1400 on a limo? Did he train or ride a few winners? Did he own the winner of the gold cup?
 

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Michael Martin has come to the defence of John O'Donoghue and has warned against "losing the plot" when it comes to cutting back politicians' travel expenses.

According, to Martin it's not all first-class flights, limos, five star hotels and days spent at Ascot. Politicians have to do some work too, you know.

Martin is quoted in the Irish Examiner -

Mr Martin said O'Donoghue is in a difficult position - not because he's been caught living like a rock star at taxpayers' expense - but because, as Ceann Comhairle, he cannot sully his office by getting embroiled in a debate about expenses.

One has to wonder, exactly who is in danger of losing the plot here?

Martin warns against ?losing the plot? on political travel | Irish Examiner
What is going on here? I do not think that there has been any critism of Mr. O'Donoghues ability as a TD, Minister or Ceann Chomhairle! No the issue here is his inability to explain the accepted mis use of expenses. It is obvious that all now accept that these expenses were excessive. By accepting this silence from the one who is in fact setting standards for others in the DAil, it is saying that this level of expenses are indeed acceptable.

Now Mr. Martin's defence beggars belief and is unbelievable. Is Mr. MArtin saying that our politicians do not have to answer the reasonable clarifications of their actions? So one can assume that these actions are acceptable to Mr. Martin. This has to lead one to the conclusion that any examination of his travel claims would display a similiar disregard for prudent use of the taxpayers money. How about o trawl of his expenses?
 

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Is it possible to put down a motion of no confidence in a CC?

Over the next few weeks, JOD's casting vote could become crucial. It would be good optics from the opposition point of view if this govt were to survive solely on the vote of a damaged CC who does not have the support of the opposition.
 

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Is it possible to see total TD expenses as a separate line item in Dail accounts or do they get hidden in each departments numbers?

Would be interesting to see what the total is. And I think the publication of what is likely to be a massive figure would help get John and Joe public outraged by the waste.
 

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Actually guess who was on the same trip to India as JOD was....

Minister Martin to travel on Trade Mission to India

Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment Micheál Martin T.D., will travel as a member of Ireland's first ever State-led trade mission to India. The mission which will take place from today (16th January 2006) to January 22nd will be led by the Taoiseach. The Taoiseach will be accompanied on the visit by Ministers from two other Government Departments. .....


It was on the India trip that there was the Limo in Heathrow!!!
Bertie was on it too.

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What is going on here? I do not think that there has been any critism of Mr. O'Donoghues ability as a TD, Minister or Ceann Chomhairle! No the issue here is his inability to explain the accepted mis use of expenses. It is obvious that all now accept that these expenses were excessive. By accepting this silence from the one who is in fact setting standards for others in the DAil, it is saying that this level of expenses are indeed acceptable.

Now Mr. Martin's defence beggars belief and is unbelievable. Is Mr. MArtin saying that our politicians do not have to answer the reasonable clarifications of their actions? So one can assume that these actions are acceptable to Mr. Martin. This has to lead one to the conclusion that any examination of his travel claims would display a similiar disregard for prudent use of the taxpayers money. How about o trawl of his expenses?
What the politicians fail to understand is that it's O'Donoghue's silence on the matter that is causing this story to run and run.

It's about time we had some kind of accountability in this country. Usually, we have storms in a teacup and then the story dies. For once, I would like to see a politician deigning to explain his actions to the people who elected him - and the people who bankrolled his first-class lifestyle.

Brass necks will no longer be accepted (I hope).
 


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