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its not the sf funeral that is the problem.

its the sf rally in Milltown- nothing to do with the funeral - that is the problem.
It is none of your business that thousands of Belfast people wanted to pay tribute to a legend of their community, a Man who stood up to occupying foreign mercenaries and their unionist murder gang hirelings, whilst your ilk hid under their bed covers and cheered them on and protected their border.
 

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Indeed, this thread is about the Clifden/Hogan scandal.

Hogan blatantly broke the rules by attending the Clifden event...no doubt about it.

A few days later Pearse Doherty appeared on the six o'clock news and called for Hogan's resignation. Fair enough, that's politics for you.

The problem with Doherty, and the reason the Storey hooley is relevant to this discussion, is the fact that just a few weeks earlier Doherty himself broke the same Covid rules by attending the Belfast rally.

Sinn Fein supporters can drone on for ever more about the Clifden event, but sadly for them there's no more mileage to be gained from it, given that most of the key participants have now resigned.

Any impartial observer would have to agree, it took an inordinate amount of brass neck on Doherty's part to criticise others for doing precisely what he himself did.

If Doherty really feels so aggrieved about prominent politicians recklessly disregarding measures implemented to protect public health he should have the decency to resign his own position.

Unfortunately, decency isn't a quality readily associated with Sinn Fein.

I'll help you here..... Here is YOUR problem, in your miserable attempt to protect the Mothership you are comparing a funeral which for people like you took place in a far away foreign place, with a piss up for those who fúcked up this country time and again, a collection of charlatans and snake oil salesmen who are nothing but a drain on the Taxpayer.

Judges, Politicians, vulture fund gangsters and a few unknowns gathered for a piss up.............what could possibly go wrong for the ordinary decent folk when such cretins get together, eh?
 

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Whisth willya , lave them at it .
Its fun witnessing the FFG meltdowns though and watching them try to squirm their way round in an attempt to deflect to the shinners for just about everything .. I wonder do they genuinely not see how utterly ridiculous they look ... but I do see what you mean ;)
 

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FF attacked the Shinners before the last election.........It didn't work

FF attacked the shinners after the last election.............It didn't work

Nero Martin continues the same attack...........FF are at 10%.

Martin must stay!!! B E S T T A O I S E A C H E V E R
 

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Their is no such party as FFG, they are 2 different partiesm FF and FG, as for people voting for FF and FG, their is no alternative , a vote for SF is for many saying that their support and continued association with PIRA was ok. With Cullinan "Up the RA,, Tiocfaidh Ar La", having a rally in the middle of the pandemic for former PIRA man Storey
Should really be FFGG should it not - the 'parties' in this hames of a government are FF, FG, G(reens) - dá bhrí sin, in short, FFGG.
 

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FFG making a comedy of errors which was quite comical to watch with all buffoonary and facial elements in it.

Its a popcorn time with management buzz speak guy ex SD now FFer.

Its comedy GOLD
 

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I think that you're being a little bit unfair to the Tweedles there , Power and Patronage have been their consistent core principles .
Oddly enough for two parties very sniffy about Sinn Fein it is Fianna Failers and Fine Gaelers who were continuing the noble tradition of Irishmen shooting at each other in order to decide who should govern them.

At least Sinn Fein know which way to point a rifle.
 

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It is none of your business that thousands of Belfast people wanted to pay tribute to a legend of their community, a Man who stood up to occupying foreign mercenaries and their unionist murder gang hirelings, whilst your ilk hid under their bed covers and cheered them on and protected their border.
oooh, touched a nerve, methinks.

so now it’s none of my business if a bunch of reckless yobbos have a political rally (in a graveyard of all places), mix around as if it were the all Ireland in the middle of a pandemic, flaunting the guidelines, sticking 2 fingers at public health?

none of my business?


who are you - cullinane who announced on tv it had nothing to do with us - it was “in another jurisdiction”?
 

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At least Sinn Fein's core manifesto has never changed. Can the same be said for FF and FG?
What a load of rubbish!
Tell us what was the SF policy regarding government formation in the 26 under the then leader, Grizzly Adams?
Remember the 2016 election?
Then SF deputy leader MaryLou agreed that SF should stay out of government formation talks!
What changed?
 

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At least Sinn Fein's core manifesto has never changed. Can the same be said for FF and FG?
Wrong
Special criminal court - from wanting it abolished to it being reviewed and if the review recomends it's retention, they would support it
Water charges - would pay them till Murphy won the byelection then they opposed them
 

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I'll help you here..... Here is YOUR problem, in your miserable attempt to protect the Mothership you are comparing a funeral which for people like you took place in a far away foreign place, with a piss up for those who fúcked up this country time and again, a collection of charlatans and snake oil salesmen who are nothing but a drain on the Taxpayer.

Judges, Politicians, vulture fund gangsters and a few unknowns gathered for a piss up.............what could possibly go wrong for the ordinary decent folk when such cretins get together, eh?
None of that changes the fact that a number of prominent Sinn Fein politicians brazenly defied the rules to attend an unnecessary political rally.

Doherty, in his supreme wisdom, decreed that politicians who ignored the rules must resign....provided, of course, that they're not Sinn Fein politicians.

Doherty has some arrogant sense of entitlement when he believes he's exempt from the very rules that he expects others to adhere to.
 

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None of that changes the fact that a number of prominent Sinn Fein politicians brazenly defied the rules to attend an unnecessary political rally.

Doherty, in his supreme wisdom, decreed that politicians who ignored the rules must resign....provided, of course, that they're not Sinn Fein politicians.

Doherty has some arrogant sense of entitlement when he believes he's exempt from the very rules that he expects others to adhere to.
Has yer judge resigned yet? Or is he exempt cos he is, like, you know, a really really important person who the state just couldn't survive without?
 

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Has yer judge resigned yet? Or is he exempt cos he is, like, you know, a really really important person who the state just couldn't survive without?
Not everyone who recklessly flouts the rules will be required to resign.

After all...Mary Lou and Doherty are still in situ.
 

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What a load of rubbish!
Tell us what was the SF policy regarding government formation in the 26 under the then leader, Grizzly Adams?
Remember the 2016 election?
Then SF deputy leader MaryLou agreed that SF should stay out of government formation talks!
What changed?
The purpose of Sinn Fein's existence has not changed. No one can say the same for Fianna Fail or Fine Gael.
 

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oooh, touched a nerve, methinks.

so now it’s none of my business if a bunch of reckless yobbos have a political rally (in a graveyard of all places), mix around as if it were the all Ireland in the middle of a pandemic, flaunting the guidelines, sticking 2 fingers at public health?

none of my business?


who are you - cullinane who announced on tv it had nothing to do with us - it was “in another jurisdiction”?
Why not write to a Supreme Court judge to make sure your views on reckless yobbos and sticking two fingers up at public health restrictions are heard? I guess the advice there is to deal with your own roof before complaining about the neighbour's roof.
 

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You can see where people like Angela Kerins get their arrogance from. People in the political environment who convey the air that regulations, law or ethic are only for the proles.

We have a Supreme Court judge who is proposing to cost the state a lot of money because of his arrogant assumption that such rules don't apply to Supreme Court judges.

At least Sinn Fein are subject to an investigation and a PSNI report which may include charges under the restrictions. Seamus Wolfe is basically employing barristers in an effort to prove through a contortionist attempt that the rules don't apply to him.

It isn't Sinn Fein you should be worrying about. It is Supreme Court judges in Ireland who think their job title is an exemption certificate.
 

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In summary, we never see the principles of a republic from our D4 mob. It is always spending public money to demonstrate how they are an exception. Maybe with Sinn Fein we'll see a bit more republicanism (note small 'r') instead of the protestant-on-a-horse notions that some of our paid public servants have.

Some of them are way too big for republican boots and could do with being rearranged until they DO fit in a republic. That's never going to come from FF or FG.

I wouldn't expect a huge amount of either small 'r' republicanism or socialism. But a little would be nice. For a change.
 

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Thoughts on the above came to rest on Fianna Fail's 'republicanism'. Actors dressed up at an annual ceremony. Very appropriate too.
 

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