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"drunken psychopath with a loaded weapon is not a good mix on the streets of Belfast".

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He also claims that MacKay was a “keen Orangeman” and sported a ‘King Billy tattoo” and was “befriended” by members of the RUC.
MacKay, who was 62, was also one of five British soldiers convicted in 1977 of planting ammunition in cars owned by innocent civilians.
New claims about British soldier suspected of shooting west Belfast teenager - The Irish News

This about the killing of a Catholic teenager in Belfast by Brits in 1975 by a 'drunken Brit psychopath'. This is what the Brits where to the sane. An occupying force of brutality and murder. They then raided the house of the murdered boy without telling his mother that he was dead.

I hope the family find some sort of peace in this kultre of silence, cover-up and collusion.

It'll be hard to get the facts from crown forces that were happy to colonise, murder, drug, behead, starve and torture their way around the globe in their imperialist bloodlust. Why would Ireland be any different from Britain's previous imperialist misadventures?
https://twitter.com/crimesofbrits/with_replies

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Paul Butler from Relatives for Justice said documents uncovered by the group have revealed attempts by the British army to label Mr Norney a gunman.
“There needs to be a totally new independent mechanism put in place to deal with British army killings," he said.
 


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New claims about British soldier suspected of shooting west Belfast teenager - The Irish News

This about the killing of a Catholic teenager in Belfast by Brits in 1975 by a 'drunken Brit psychopath'. This is what the Brits where to the sane. An occupying force of brutality and murder. They then raided the house of the murdered boy without telling his mother that he was dead.

I hope the family find some sort of peace in this kultre of silence, cover-up and collusion.

It'll be hard to get the facts from crown forces that were happy to colonise, murder, drug, behead, starve and torture their way around the globe in their imperialist bloodlust. Why would Ireland be any different from Britain's previous imperialist misadventures?
https://twitter.com/crimesofbrits/with_replies

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They lie big and they lie often.......DESMOND HEALEY

Desmond Healey 14 years, 8 Bunbeg Park, Lenadoon, West Belfast, shot on 9 August 1971, in Lenadoon by members of the British Army’s Parachute Regiment. Desmond Healey was a twin and both he and his brother were eldest in a family with four boys. The family originally came from the lower Falls Road area, where Desmond had attended St Finian’s Primary School. He later attended St Peter’s Secondary School at Brittons Road, in the Whiterock Road area. Friends of Desmond talking years after his death described him as a lad who was always full of life and always out and about. They said he loved to go swimming at the Falls Baths or at the ‘coolers’ in the Falls Park, but wasn’t too keen on other sports.
Being in his early teens he enjoyed going dancing with his friends. The Saturday night Clonard dance, beside Clonard Monastery, was his favourite venue. He also went to local dances in the Lenadoon estate on Tuesdays and sometimes Friday nights. He was a music lover and his favourite record at the time was ‘Coco the king of dancing’. On the morning Desmond was shot and killed, nationalist parts of Belfast City and other areas of the north of Ireland were in turmoil.
The Unionist government had ordered the introduction of internment during the earlier hours of 9 August 1971, and British troops were carrying out the orders with mass arrests and raids. Throughout Belfast as British troops moved into the nationalists areas of the city people resisted by barricading their streets and roads. Heavy rioting ensued in these areas throughout the day.
By nightfall fourteen people were reported killed during the violence in Belfast. Eleven of the victims were shot dead by British troops. There were no British military fatalities. Information on the killings carried out by British troops on ‘Internment day’ were only briefly reported in the Press the following day. The death of Desmond Healey was not mentioned at all, and remained unreported for several days.
The following statement is an eyewitness account from a woman, a contemporary of Desmond’s, who witnessed the events before and after the shooting. ‘It was mid-morning on 9 August 1971, and rioting was taking place in Lenadoon Avenue, at the junction with Falcarragh Drive and Glenveagh Drive.
I was standing at the corner of Glenveagh Drive amongst a crowd of by-standers and had a good view of the events taking place. British Army saracen’s (armoured personnel carriers) were parked across Lenadoon Avenue at the junction of Falcarragh Drive. A large crowd of people, mostly young boys were throwing stones and bottles at the soldiers who were gathered around the saracens. The riot was on a small scale and petrol bombs were not used. The stoning went on for quite a while and then the soldiers, who were well protected by riot gear, proceeded to advance on the crowd. A single shot rang out and the crowd dispersed, mostly turning and running up the Avenue. A boy who had been about to throw an object (which turned out to be an empty sauce bottle) fell to the ground. It was obvious even from a distance that he was very young, and badly injured. A soldier went towards the boy who had fallen. He lifted him up and carried him to the saracen, ignoring the outcry from the crowd. The rest of the soldiers then got into the saracen and it drove away.’
The saracen headed in the direction of the Stewartstown Road. The eyewitness said at this stage she was not aware who the injured boy was, although she had known Desmond Healey for some time previously. The next day a report in one of the local newspapers stated the body of an unidentified youth, aged between 17 and 19 years, had been found at waste ground off the Stewartstown Road. The place where the unidentified youth was found was over a quarter of a mile from the Lenadoon Avenue, Glenveagh Drive junction. A follow-up story on the unidentified youth, accompanied with an identikit picture, appeared in the same newspaper on 11 August. The report maintained the dead youth was aged between 17 and 19years, adding that he was 5’11 in height. It reported the body of the youth was in the Belfast morgue.
In the Healey home on the evening of 9 August, when Desmond failed to come home, his parents thought he had probably gone to the home of one his aunts in the lower Falls Road area. The Healeys were originally from the lower Falls area and Desmond was always returning to the area to stay with relatives. However confirming their son was with relatives was no easy task given the situation and time. The violence following the introduction of internment continued for days. Public transport had ceased in many areas. Hijacked vehicles blocked roads and streets, and telephones were rarity in most working class homes at the time. All the Healey family could hope was that when things settled their son would contact them. Obviously they did not think the report in the local press of an unidentified youth in the morgue was their son. After all the description was of a youth near 6 feet tall and between 17 to 19 years of age. It bore no similarity to their son, who was only 14 years and 5’6. The identikit picture also bore no resemblance to their son. When Desmond still had not returned home after several days, and none of his relatives had seen or heard from him, the Healeys contacted the authorities, giving them a description of their son. On 13 August the Healey family were taken to Belfast morgue and discovered the unidentified youth reported in the Press was their son Desmond.
The British Army issued no statement concerning the role of their forces in the death of Desmond. Relatives for Justice interviewed Desmond’s twin brother in recent years. He said the inquest into his brother’s death was held in Lisburn some time in 1972, and that it was revealed his brother was shot once in the chest. He said the British Army had admitted the killing. But being only 14 years old at the time, and his father having since died, while his mother was ill, he was unable to recall how the British soldiers who killed his brother were able to explain the appalling events surrounding the killing-the shooting of the boy and dumping of his body on waste ground. He did remember the British army accused his brother of having petrol on his clothes. The jury, he said, returned an open verdict. There were no reports of the inquest in any of the local newspapers.
No inquiry was ever held into the killing of Desmond Healey and no British soldiers were ever charged in connection with his death.............
https://www.britisharmykillings.com/desmond-healey/

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They lie big and they lie often.......DESMOND HEALEY

Desmond Healey 14 years, 8 Bunbeg Park, Lenadoon, West Belfast, shot on 9 August 1971, in Lenadoon by members of the British Army’s Parachute Regiment. Desmond Healey was a twin and both he and his brother were eldest in a family with four boys. The family originally came from the lower Falls Road area, where Desmond had attended St Finian’s Primary School. He later attended St Peter’s Secondary School at Brittons Road, in the Whiterock Road area. Friends of Desmond talking years after his death described him as a lad who was always full of life and always out and about. They said he loved to go swimming at the Falls Baths or at the ‘coolers’ in the Falls Park, but wasn’t too keen on other sports.
Being in his early teens he enjoyed going dancing with his friends. The Saturday night Clonard dance, beside Clonard Monastery, was his favourite venue. He also went to local dances in the Lenadoon estate on Tuesdays and sometimes Friday nights. He was a music lover and his favourite record at the time was ‘Coco the king of dancing’. On the morning Desmond was shot and killed, nationalist parts of Belfast City and other areas of the north of Ireland were in turmoil.
The Unionist government had ordered the introduction of internment during the earlier hours of 9 August 1971, and British troops were carrying out the orders with mass arrests and raids. Throughout Belfast as British troops moved into the nationalists areas of the city people resisted by barricading their streets and roads. Heavy rioting ensued in these areas throughout the day.
By nightfall fourteen people were reported killed during the violence in Belfast. Eleven of the victims were shot dead by British troops. There were no British military fatalities. Information on the killings carried out by British troops on ‘Internment day’ were only briefly reported in the Press the following day. The death of Desmond Healey was not mentioned at all, and remained unreported for several days.
The following statement is an eyewitness account from a woman, a contemporary of Desmond’s, who witnessed the events before and after the shooting. ‘It was mid-morning on 9 August 1971, and rioting was taking place in Lenadoon Avenue, at the junction with Falcarragh Drive and Glenveagh Drive.
I was standing at the corner of Glenveagh Drive amongst a crowd of by-standers and had a good view of the events taking place. British Army saracen’s (armoured personnel carriers) were parked across Lenadoon Avenue at the junction of Falcarragh Drive. A large crowd of people, mostly young boys were throwing stones and bottles at the soldiers who were gathered around the saracens. The riot was on a small scale and petrol bombs were not used. The stoning went on for quite a while and then the soldiers, who were well protected by riot gear, proceeded to advance on the crowd. A single shot rang out and the crowd dispersed, mostly turning and running up the Avenue. A boy who had been about to throw an object (which turned out to be an empty sauce bottle) fell to the ground. It was obvious even from a distance that he was very young, and badly injured. A soldier went towards the boy who had fallen. He lifted him up and carried him to the saracen, ignoring the outcry from the crowd. The rest of the soldiers then got into the saracen and it drove away.’
The saracen headed in the direction of the Stewartstown Road. The eyewitness said at this stage she was not aware who the injured boy was, although she had known Desmond Healey for some time previously. The next day a report in one of the local newspapers stated the body of an unidentified youth, aged between 17 and 19 years, had been found at waste ground off the Stewartstown Road. The place where the unidentified youth was found was over a quarter of a mile from the Lenadoon Avenue, Glenveagh Drive junction. A follow-up story on the unidentified youth, accompanied with an identikit picture, appeared in the same newspaper on 11 August. The report maintained the dead youth was aged between 17 and 19years, adding that he was 5’11 in height. It reported the body of the youth was in the Belfast morgue.
In the Healey home on the evening of 9 August, when Desmond failed to come home, his parents thought he had probably gone to the home of one his aunts in the lower Falls Road area. The Healeys were originally from the lower Falls area and Desmond was always returning to the area to stay with relatives. However confirming their son was with relatives was no easy task given the situation and time. The violence following the introduction of internment continued for days. Public transport had ceased in many areas. Hijacked vehicles blocked roads and streets, and telephones were rarity in most working class homes at the time. All the Healey family could hope was that when things settled their son would contact them. Obviously they did not think the report in the local press of an unidentified youth in the morgue was their son. After all the description was of a youth near 6 feet tall and between 17 to 19 years of age. It bore no similarity to their son, who was only 14 years and 5’6. The identikit picture also bore no resemblance to their son. When Desmond still had not returned home after several days, and none of his relatives had seen or heard from him, the Healeys contacted the authorities, giving them a description of their son. On 13 August the Healey family were taken to Belfast morgue and discovered the unidentified youth reported in the Press was their son Desmond.
The British Army issued no statement concerning the role of their forces in the death of Desmond. Relatives for Justice interviewed Desmond’s twin brother in recent years. He said the inquest into his brother’s death was held in Lisburn some time in 1972, and that it was revealed his brother was shot once in the chest. He said the British Army had admitted the killing. But being only 14 years old at the time, and his father having since died, while his mother was ill, he was unable to recall how the British soldiers who killed his brother were able to explain the appalling events surrounding the killing-the shooting of the boy and dumping of his body on waste ground. He did remember the British army accused his brother of having petrol on his clothes. The jury, he said, returned an open verdict. There were no reports of the inquest in any of the local newspapers.
No inquiry was ever held into the killing of Desmond Healey and no British soldiers were ever charged in connection with his death.............
https://www.britisharmykillings.com/desmond-healey/

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Murder is murder is murder. Margaret Thatcher.
 

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Murder is murder is murder. Margaret Thatcher.

Except when the victim is Irish and the perpetrators are British or are their dupes

I wonder wether someone will come along to this thread and cry copious tears
about the abuse of these children.
 

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Except when the victim is Irish and the perpetrators are British or are their dupes

I wonder wether someone will come along to this thread and cry copious tears
about the abuse of these children.



From the usual suspects, it will be akin for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle sir.
 

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Majella's case has always shown me that, as the parent of a child in Northern Ireland I should keep in mind, that the British Army and the justice system will shield a soldier who is capable of shooting my daughter through the back, but would discharge a soldier for cheating on 'who wants to be a millionaire'.
There's a reason why british soldiers are recruited from the dregs of the comprehensive system, and why so many end up in prison when they are thrown out onto civvy street.
 

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The fact that the UDA was allowed to exist legally from 1972-1995 has never been explained. Yet the reason is clear.
 

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The fact that the UDA was allowed to exist legally from 1972-1995 has never been explained. Yet the reason is clear.
Well there was an official explanation of sorts, but It made no sense in the context of the time when other terrorist groups were proscribed.
The explanation went along the lines that it was easier to keep an eye on the UDA by allowing them to remain legal, but of course if that argument had any merit, why not apply it in all cases? It was a bullsh1t excuse. It suited the British to allow a body of reactionary terrorists involved in revenge murders, and it dodn't matter that most of their victims were uninvolved civilians murdered for purely sectarian reasons, because, like the loyalists, they seemed to think that terrorising the Catholic community at large would pressurise the IRA to desist.It was perverse logic of course.
 

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The fact that the UDA was allowed to exist legally from 1972-1995 has never been explained. Yet the reason is clear.
Terrorism/state terrorism.

A clear sectarian agenda from top to bottom. The lazy bitch tramp queen was the head of a vicious and violent anti-Catholic monarchy. The dregs/subjects/sycophants/brainless saw it as their duty to try to ethnic cleanse native Catholics and use terrorism/collusion/state terror as a method of revenge for anti-imperialist violence from Republicans.

Now the same dregs are still in the same doldrums and haven't gained an inch or any respect for their sectarian sycophancy. The sad thing about it is that they don't care. GSTQ.
 

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Have a nice little chat there among yourselves lads.
Give me a shout when you get to the part about your pals part in the kneecappings that made the Royal Victoria famous all over the world.
 

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Have a nice little chat there among yourselves lads.
Give me a shout when you get to the part about your pals part in the kneecappings that made the Royal Victoria famous all over the world.
Reluctant to discuss the British arming psychopaths and sending them to Ireland ?
The Royal became famous for treating victims of violence.
Join the dots.
 

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Have a nice little chat there among yourselves lads.
Give me a shout when you get to the part about your pals part in the kneecappings that made the Royal Victoria famous all over the world.
What the heck has the punishment shooting of anti-socials got to do with state slaughter and cover-up???
 

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Terrorism/state terrorism.

A clear sectarian agenda from top to bottom. The lazy bitch tramp queen was the head of a vicious and violent anti-Catholic monarchy. The dregs/subjects/sycophants/brainless saw it as their duty to try to ethnic cleanse native Catholics and use terrorism/collusion/state terror as a method of revenge for anti-imperialist violence from Republicans.

Now the same dregs are still in the same doldrums and haven't gained an inch or any respect for their sectarian sycophancy. The sad thing about it is that they don't care. GSTQ.
No sane person writes blather like that.
 

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No sane person writes blather like that.
This is your response? Why have you ignored the opening post of the thread and instead trolled? Scared to admit what the British state/Army was during their occupation?

The post you quoted is factual. If it isn't it should be easy to refute. Over to you.
 

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I thought the Southies were much more worried about the Islamist Jihad raging on their streets nowadays.

Its typical they would care far more about a few rando attacks in Europe than the40 year conflict in NI.
 

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I thought the Southies were much more worried about the Islamist Jihad raging on their streets nowadays.

Its typical they would care far more about a few rando attacks in Europe than the40 year conflict in NI.


Lady, IMO
Brexit will destroy those two leading parties in the ROI, folk there have witnessed at first hand how a hick from the sticks orange woman dismissed them as idiots, bring on a GE in the South ffs and let's see proper debate which will benefit the people of Ireland.
 


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