Dublin councilor John Lyons resigns from PBP


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This is not a surprise - it has been on the cards for some time. It nearly happened before the last general election.

My guess is that Lyons could end up running for I4C next time around.
Was he not a devout Trotskyite?
 

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Yes I agree..You are right, Everyone should pay through the nose for everything .we should as a nation become more subservient and not question our masters. We should endorse our politicians and bankers ...to the death
 

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:giggle: And Palestine is an old reliable. These leftwits all have to drink that particular kool aid. Misery tourism busybodies.
And this coming from a fu*kwit who supports that gobshyte Varadkar who posts pics of his socks, like a juvenile girl bragging about decorating the Xmas tree etc
 
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And this coming from a fu*kwit who supports that gobshyte Varadkar who posts pics of his socks, like a juvenile girl bragging about decorating the Xmas tree etc
I don't. I have a low opinion of him.
 

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PBP the party of the 1%
 

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So much for Marxist cooperation putting class first before personal issues :laugh: Despite any public statements the pair of Trots resent each other and watch the others like a hawk.
Solidarity and PBP are two separate political parties - each is entitled to stand candidates where ever they want. Solidarity called for transfers for PBP last time out - PBP (or specifically Lyons) did not call for transfers for Solidarity.

And for educational purposes PON - Marxists do not view a capitalist parliamentary system as serving working class people in any way.
 

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Solidarity and PBP are two separate political parties - each is entitled to stand candidates where ever they want. Solidarity called for transfers for PBP last time out - PBP (or specifically Lyons) did not call for transfers for Solidarity.

And for educational purposes PON - Marxists do not view a capitalist parliamentary system as serving working class people in any way.
Educate me, why do marxists stand for election to a parliament they believe does not serve working class people ? Is it for the money ?
 

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Solidarity and PBP are two separate political parties - each is entitled to stand candidates where ever they want. Solidarity called for transfers for PBP last time out - PBP (or specifically Lyons) did not call for transfers for Solidarity.

And for educational purposes PON - Marxists do not view a capitalist parliamentary system as serving working class people in any way.
Working class people don't see Ruth Coppinger or Paul Murphy as serving working class people in any way. Indeed quite the opposite.
 

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Solidarity and PBP are two separate political parties - each is entitled to stand candidates where ever they want.
for the benefit of "working class" geezers like myself,
could you tell us what's the difference between the Socialist Party, PBP & the other looney left factions ?
 

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for the benefit of "working class" geezers like myself,
could you tell us what's the difference between the Socialist Party, PBP & the other looney left factions ?
No one will ever answer that question with clear, concise mission statement phrases. Instead it becomes a mud slinging match from the get go. I’m something of a semi detached supporter of PBP myself, I support the individual candidates do a bit of campaigning help out at the polling station etc., butfind the intellectual purity stuff frankly appalling. Cult of personality stuff in truth. It’s like trying to explain the difference between Protestantism and catholicism to a hindu, it just makes no sense to them.
 

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No one will ever answer that question with clear, concise mission statement phrases. Instead it becomes a mud slinging match from the get go. I’m something of a semi detached supporter of PBP myself, I support the individual candidates do a bit of campaigning help out at the polling station etc., butfind the intellectual purity stuff frankly appalling. Cult of personality stuff in truth. It’s like trying to explain the difference between Protestantism and catholicism to a hindu, it just makes no sense to them.
I've often posted here about my experiences in the Labour Party when Joe Higgins headed up the marxist militants organisation before the party kicked the lot of them out in the late 80's, 89 I think. You are right in describing them as cult-like. They didn't allow for any critical discussion of the line from HQ, Higgins and two or three more. Their slavish devotion to all things Marxist was comical looking back on it. Disagree and you were ostracised, sometimes in a very nasty way.
Their modus operandi outside of the party was to attach themselves to any cause or protest and try to wield as much influence as possible from within. They were a plague on any union involved in a dispute as they promoted the hardest of lines as possible and criticised any settlement as being a sell-out. Higgins had his own magazine where he lashed out at just about everybody who disagreed with him. A kind of "Alive" for commies.
 

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Educate me, why do marxists stand for election to a parliament they believe does not serve working class people ? Is it for the money ?
To use it as a platform to expose the nature of capitalism and explain the socialist alternative.

In contrast - the LP implement the diktats of the ruling elites, while the so-called representatives line their pockets to the hilt.
 
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