Dunkirk

Rafael Rose

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Yes, as you rightly say, "nothing on the scale of Germany and Japan". The fact is that the armed forces of both those countries regularly committed massacres of prisoners and civilians, as a deliberate policy and with the full knowledge of their respective High Commands. This is nowhere near to the situation in the Western Allied forces where such behaviour was a rarity and usually due to a local breakdown in discipline rather than acting on orders.

I asked that particular question of redneck, "Which massacres by Allied troops in WW2 , and of whom, would you particularly like to see portrayed?" because he seems to be under the impression that such behaviour was normal and commonplace across all armies and combatants in WW2, when it manifestly wasn't.
 


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Someone put the Dunkirk music to the flying scenes in the Battle of Britain

[video=youtube;Q4Dz05rY5UY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Dz05rY5UY[/video]
 

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Saw the movie last night at Waterloo IMAX. It was OK, it was somewhat scaled down but I guess they could not afford 400,000 extras and 100s of little boats. Nevertheless the appearance of those little boats at Dunkirk made me choke up - as the thought of them always does. It was truly a remarkable event, one of the greatest in all history.

They could have augmented the movie by virtual crowds (as Gladiator did) but I noticed in the credits that the film was filmed, not digital.

I had forgotten that the air forces even in WWII consisted mostly of ace pilots dashing about in tiny planes that could become gliders when they ran out of fuel.

Also glad that if I'd been alive in WW2 as a woman I would not have had to participate as those poor blokes did. War is ghastly.

In short, a pretty good movie, but not as great as I thought it would be.
 
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Just back from seeing it. Initial thoughts:

Very good. Perhaps Nolan's best? Far superior to that "realistic" Batman shyte [:roll:]

The tension was measured perfectly throughout the filum, although the rescue scene towards the end was too schmaltzy for my tastes; I wanted to puke when I heard the Blade Runner esque variation of the Nimrod variation *cringe*. Yes Christopher, we know you're in love with Blade Runner, but do you have to include references to it in every movie you make?

Two things stood out:

Aside from the Luftwaffe we only get a fleeting glimpse of the Boche infantry at the end. That made the German war machine even more menacing. An superlative directorial touch!

The brave Ruperts downing the Heinkels. The dogfight sequences were exhilarating.

Remove the schmaltz, and it's up there with Tora Tora Tora! and the under-rated A Bridge Too Far as one of the best WW2 movies ever made.
 
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Saw the movie last night at Waterloo IMAX. It was OK, it was somewhat scaled down but I guess they could not afford 400,000 extras and 100s of little boats. Nevertheless the appearance of those little boats at Dunkirk made me choke up - as the thought of them always does. It was truly a remarkable event, one of the greatest in all history.

They could have augmented the movie by virtual crowds (as Gladiator did) but I noticed in the credits that the film was filmed, not digital.

I had forgotten that the air forces even in WWII consisted mostly of ace pilots dashing about in tiny planes that could become gliders when they ran out of fuel.

Also glad that if I'd been alive in WW2 as a woman I would not have had to participate as those poor blokes did. War is ghastly.

In short, a pretty good movie, but not as great as I thought it would be.
Females in 1940 had more balls than the 21st century brand of "masculinity":




For shame.
 

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Saw the movie last night at Waterloo IMAX. It was OK, it was somewhat scaled down but I guess they could not afford 400,000 extras and 100s of little boats. Nevertheless the appearance of those little boats at Dunkirk made me choke up - as the thought of them always does. It was truly a remarkable event, one of the greatest in all history.

They could have augmented the movie by virtual crowds (as Gladiator did) but I noticed in the credits that the film was filmed, not digital.

I had forgotten that the air forces even in WWII consisted mostly of ace pilots dashing about in tiny planes that could become gliders when they ran out of fuel.

Also glad that if I'd been alive in WW2 as a woman I would not have had to participate as those poor blokes did. War is ghastly.

In short, a pretty good movie, but not as great as I thought it would be.
No Grace, women had it just cushy during WW2.

I really did not think you could be that stupid, but as always, my expectations are too high. :)
 

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No Grace, women had it just cushy during WW2.

I really did not think you could be that stupid, but as always, my expectations are too high. :)

Oh behave, or we'll put you on the naughty step again...
 

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Oh behave, or we'll put you on the naughty step again...
p.ie was much more pleasant while eotn was absent. She does not read other people's posts properly, just wants to make her silly comments.

I've just put her on ignore.
 

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Just back from seeing it. Initial thoughts:

Very good. Perhaps Nolan's best? Far superior to that "realistic" Batman shyte [:roll:]

The tension was measured perfectly throughout the filum, although the rescue scene towards the end was too schmaltzy for my tastes; I wanted to puke when I heard the Blade Runner esque variation of the Nimrod variation *cringe*. Yes Christopher, we know you're in love with Blade Runner, but do you have to include references to it in every movie you make?

Two things stood out:

Aside from the Luftwaffe we only get a fleeting glimpse of the Boche infantry at the end. That made the German war machine even more menacing. An superlative directorial touch!

The brave Ruperts downing the Heinkels. The dogfight sequences were exhilarating.

Remove the schmaltz, and it's up there with Tora Tora Tora! and the under-rated A Bridge Too Far as one of the best WW2 movies ever made.
The "schmaltz" was possibly a real reflection of the event. Imagine the joy those poor stranded soldiers would have felt when they saw the little boats coming to rescue them.
 
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The "schmaltz" was possibly a real reflection of the event. Imagine the joy those poor stranded soldiers would have felt when they saw the little boats coming to rescue them.
I can't imagine it, but yes, that's a fair point.

Nolan has a habit of over scoring his movies IMO. I think the Vangelised "original" soundtrack was probably the worst bit about it. Blade Runner fans might understand.

Best scenes were definitely in the **** pit with the stoic RAF pilots. Now that's cold, steely courage.
 
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On the whole there's not enough wimmens, blacks, gays, lezzers, red heads etc., Hollywood could remake Carve Her Name With Pride, just to balance things out, and give the feminazis something to gloat over.

The gay flag being hoisted on a British destroyer perhaps, cross dressing Paratroopers, muscle bound, martial expert SOE wimmen battering Jerry into a pulp.

Make a great porno movie.
 

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On the whole there's not enough wimmens, blacks, gays, lezzers, red heads etc., Hollywood could remake Carve Her Name With Pride, just to balance things out, and give the feminazis something to gloat over.

The gay flag being hoisted on a British destroyer perhaps, cross dressing Paratroopers, muscle bound, martial expert SOE wimmen battering Jerry into a pulp.

Make a great porno movie.
The original version of Carve Her Name with Pride was a pretty good movie. However, I don't like the idea of doing "politically correct" but historically inaccurate remakes, or even movies about mythological times. I was quite annoyed with an Arthurian TV series which had black people in it. Out of time, out of place. I am sure someone is going to call me a racist now. I'd like to reassure them I am not.
 

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I was was going to watch this, but Star Trek movies don't do it for me anymore.
 

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I was was going to watch this, but Star Trek movies don't do it for me anymore.
Dunkirk was epic and that's why I decided to see it at an IMAX theatre. However, you won't miss much if you see it later on the telly. Imho it was overrated a bit.
 
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The original version of Carve Her Name with Pride was a pretty good movie. However, I don't like the idea of doing "politically correct" but historically inaccurate remakes, or even movies about mythological times. I was quite annoyed with an Arthurian TV series which had black people in it. Out of time, out of place. I am sure someone is going to call me a racist now. I'd like to reassure them I am not.
A bit silly that, but I guess the idea is to sell it to a diverse thin skinned audience, so historicity has to take a back seat?

Mind you there's been plenty of movies that have used anachronisms, or whose historicity has been appalling innaccurate, and yet they worked, so perhaps it depends on context?

A black Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar for example?

It's possible though. Lots of black slaves passing through the levant in mythological times.



Some of the other Jebus movies portrayed Jesus as an aryan bloke who could have been from Scandarabia?

Mickey Rooney as a cantankerous Jap?

 
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Planning on re-watching The Dam Busters tonight.

[video=youtube;QgePEO7GUtE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgePEO7GUtE[/video]
 
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Nail biting scene, and very well acted.

I've seen this movie 4 times. Aside from a few minor quibbles with plot points (particularly fortis ATAG's dogfights), I think its one of the most engrossing and original war movies I've seen.
 


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