DUP found out?

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It's widely accepted that as a result of the disastrous Teresa May's silly election and the resultant attempt of coalition with the DUP that one of the most ironic outcomes is that the average UK citizen has been exposed to the rancid homophobia of the DUP. Their intransigence has also come to light. Their sheer bloodymindedness has been an eye-opener for UK citizens. Conversely, hundreds of thousands of UK citizens have renewed sympathy for the Republican movement in Ireland.

Given Sinn Féin's repeated calls for years for equality and inclusiveness of ALL NI citizens, is it time the unionist terror groups (which are closely associated to the DUP) should decommission their weapons now? If they stopped murdering each other over drug deals, that would be a decent start.
 


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Pffft ye call that a flaming Fred? Ye fecking amateur...
 

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It's widely accepted that as a result of the disastrous Teresa May's silly election and the resultant attempt of coalition with the DUP that one of the most ironic outcomes is that the average UK citizen has been exposed to the rancid homophobia of the DUP. Their intransigence has also come to light. Their sheer bloodymindedness has been an eye-opener for UK citizens. Conversely, hundreds of thousands of UK citizens have renewed sympathy for the Republican movement in Ireland.

Given Sinn Féin's repeated calls for years for equality and inclusiveness of ALL NI citizens, is it time the unionist terror groups (which are closely associated to the DUP) should decommission their weapons now? If they stopped murdering each other over drug deals, that would be a decent start.
Sorry found out by whom? For what exactly? And what particular terror group were linked with the DUP? Name some names there good man.
 

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Sorry found out by whom? For what exactly? And what particular terror group were linked with the DUP? Name some names there good man.
You're joking, right?

Are you seriously suggesting that the DUP and several of their leaders haven't been closely associated with paramilitaries?

Or do you mean that everyone already knew all this and that there is nothing more for anyone to find out?
 

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I do think a lot of English people are finding out about them for the first time. They're pretty oblivious to the ins and outs of northern Irish politics.
 

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What could anyone find out about the DUP that wasn't known already.
Anyone could find out what they didn't already know, even if others did. For example, articles in the UK press describing how the UDA, UVF and Red Hand Commando publicly endorsed DUP candidates may be common knowledge in NI, but not until recently much far beyond.
 

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What could anyone find out about the DUP that wasn't known already.
I'd imagine a lot of younger voters in England and those of an immigrant background might not be too familiar with the DUP...

They are now.....
 

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You're joking, right?

Are you seriously suggesting that the DUP and several of their leaders haven't been closely associated with paramilitaries?

Or do you mean that everyone already knew all this and that there is nothing more for anyone to find out?
Exactly. Either we have moved on or we haven't. It is a bit rich to be spouting about collusion as an impediment to Government involvement for historical reasons. I mean have Sinn Fein not moved on and are now a fully democratic party fully in line with the rule of law? If so then so have the DUP. The Conservative claimed Cornyn supported the IRA during the election, that most people under 25 rightly ignored. There are a myriad other reasons to deplore the DUP, but spouting this BS is ridiculous.
 

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What could anyone find out about the DUP that wasn't known already.
Absolutely everything. Many people wouldn't have much more than a very vague idea of who they are.

A lot of people pay absolutely no attention to northern Irish political parties.
 

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Given Sinn Féin's repeated calls for years for equality and inclusiveness of ALL NI citizens,
But it was Orwellian Doublespeak

We SAW your equality and inclusiveness in action with Conor Murphy, Gildernew and Ruane.

Another DUP bashing thread started to distract from SF's failure to Unite Ireland by 2016, and the fact that SF is no longer in government on either side of the border ....

Meanwhile, the DUP, with the assistance of SF, have shown that all SF's blether about Unionism having zero influence in Westminster was bollix - and the foaming, shrieking hysteria shown towards the DUP shows that if there WERE to be a United Ireland and the Unionists became Kingmakers, one of the supposed carrots for unification, they would be hated and vilified.....
 

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I do think a lot of English people are finding out about them for the first time. They're pretty oblivious to the ins and outs of northern Irish politics.
By contrast, we're well used to the weirdness of the DUP.
 

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Sorry found out by whom? For what exactly? And what particular terror group were linked with the DUP? Name some names there good man.
Ulster Resistance/LVF/UVF and last, but not least, the UDA

There you go, my good man
 

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Ulster Resistance/LVF/UVF and last, but not least, the UDA

There you go, my good man
Whatever about how little the British know about the DUP and NI Protestant fundamentalists, in general, it's a measure of the ignorance of southern Irish people that they can ask this sort of thing. I'm not sure that the British are the most woefully informed.

For instance the fond idea, held by many of our more deeply religious brethren on here anyway, that Protestant fundamentalists feel anything in common with Irish Catholics on the basis of shared Christianity - what a joke.
The "all religions together against the evil secularists" thing is probably rather comforting for "embattled" Catholics down south, but they really wouldn't want to be counting on northern fundies for support:


Still. I'm sure we're all civilized now, eh? All those years of power sharing are bound to have increased sympathy and respect for "the other side." :rolleyes:
 

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Exactly. Either we have moved on or we haven't. It is a bit rich to be spouting about collusion as an impediment to Government involvement for historical reasons. I mean have Sinn Fein not moved on and are now a fully democratic party fully in line with the rule of law? If so then so have the DUP. The Conservative claimed Cornyn supported the IRA during the election, that most people under 25 rightly ignored. There are a myriad other reasons to deplore the DUP, but spouting this BS is ridiculous.
Government gave UDA-linked groups £5 million of taxpayers' money - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/arlene-fosters-stance-on-paramilitary-groups-brought-into-question


Stop being an idiot.
 
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