DUP hints at NI staying in customs union?

Franzoni

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Unionists could have their cake and eat it in this scenario. Remain in UK but be a channel for UK exporters to EU if - as has to be the case - the GB-EU trade agreement is more restrictive than being a member of the customs union.
The EU won't let the rest of the UK just funnel their goods through NI if they go down the route that the likes of the hardcore Brexiteers seem to be suggesting about reducing standards and regulations after they leave.......

I'd be reading the small print on this one.....
 


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The EU won't let the rest of the UK just funnel their goods through NI if they go down the route that the likes of the hardcore Brexiteers seem to be suggesting about reducing standards and regulations after they leave.......

I'd be reading the small print on this one.....
EU would police the external Union border in Belfast port
 

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Yesterday, a spokesperson for the British Taoiseach said the matter of NI was "to be negotiated". The Brits later "clarified" this by saying the opposite. I believe the spokesperson was probably right and speaking what they knew to be the truth but wasn't cleared by the British government. They revealed their hand in otherwords.
 

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Unionists could have their cake and eat it in this scenario. Remain in UK but be a channel for UK exporters to EU if - as has to be the case - the GB-EU trade agreement is more restrictive than being a member of the customs union.
with the uk out of the eu it will become the piranah of the buisness world, with their tearing up of buisness treatys as they feel like it
 

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EU would police the external Union border in Belfast port
This will be the tricky one. Rather border posts being targets for nationalist anti-GFA dissidents, EU staff at Ulster ports will be prime meat for the unionist ultras.

Overall still the easier security proposition to manage than the 500km frontier.
 

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This will be the tricky one. Rather border posts being targets for nationalist anti-GFA dissidents, EU staff at Ulster ports will be prime meat for the unionist ultras.

Overall still the easier security proposition to manage than the 500km frontier.
They say that when a star begins to die and turn into a dwarf, it becomes more volatile and brighter. Could this be what we are seeing re: unionism?
 

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https://europaunited.eu/2017/11/25/will-arlene-foster-drop-the-biggest-hint-that-northern-ireland-will-remain-in-the-customs-union/



Intriguing stuff. If true is this part of some strange, complex political choreography that allows Britain to move on to trade, and what is the DUP's price for this?
Two threads starting within minutes of each other quoting the same source? The one below cites it as proof that Varadkar's stunning strategy is about to cause a seismic U-turn in he DUP, capitulation by the British government and electoral rout of FF aqnd Shinner begrudgers who fail to recognise the greatest leader ever in Irish history

http://www.politics.ie/forum/current-affairs/260627-leo-has-deal-bag-brexit-fianna-fail-now-toast.html

Why am I reminded of the woman when she saw the giraffe? Or Victor Meldrew?
[video=youtube;mLNrLI3OBwg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNrLI3OBwg[/video]

Is there even just the tiniest weeshiest possibility of a Bluebot effort to deflect attention from Vladkins's failure to confront a useless entitlement-obsessed Tánaiste who broke the basic rules of ministerial responsibility?

Or is it just another example of the failure of those living in the Dublin 4 Freestater bubble to understand what unionism is about?
 

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"N.Ireland's DUP says will not accept different rules to rest of UK"

Except for same sex marriages, abortion etc....when the DUP will insist on different rules.
Ah listen, the DUP are a walking contradiction.

Dinosaurs. But even the dinosaurs died out.
 

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Its one thing as a negotiating strategy for Varadkar to rule out any hard border. Its quite another to order govt depts not to plan for one as also reported recently. Its unfair to Irish businesses who have to plan for both eventualities.
 

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Ah listen, the DUP are a walking contradiction.

Dinosaurs. But even the dinosaurs died out.
Bet everyone thinks the D in DUP stands for Democratic.
 

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Its one thing as a negotiating strategy for Varadkar to rule out any hard border. Its quite another to order govt depts not to plan for one as also reported recently. Its unfair to Irish businesses who have to plan for both eventualities.
A hard border will be ignored anyway. And local youths in Armagh will no doubt (rightly) destroy any border cameras etc. The DUP are playing with fire. They must be met head on.
 

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This will be the tricky one. Rather border posts being targets for nationalist anti-GFA dissidents, EU staff at Ulster ports will be prime meat for the unionist ultras.

Overall still the easier security proposition to manage than the 500km frontier.
Which makes me wonder if Scotland might come into play again.

If NI gets a bespoke arrangement, the Scots, (who voted almost 2:1 to remain), might notice and start agitating again for a similar special arrangement there.

OK, the you'd then be back to a land border, now running across Britain from Carlisle to Berwick, but it would be a more policeable border than the Irish one, and importantly far less sensitive (I think).

Also, the Northern unionists would be reassured by having their links to their Scottish brethern preserved, and it would probably take the wind out of the Scottish separatism for a bit (though I accept that one is a bit more unpredictable)
 

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A hard border will be ignored anyway. And local youths in Armagh will no doubt (rightly) destroy any border cameras etc. The DUP are playing with fire. They must be met head on.
Just watch how quickly they are dropped like a hot potato the minute they get in the way of London earning money :)
Insisting on a hard border, means no trade talks which means cliff edge Brexit.
Imagine if there was some sort of "revelation" this week from the British Press about one or two things which are already common knowledge regarding the DUP and some of its representatives*...

*I'm thinking about two in particular...
 


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