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DUP members against Brexit

Lord Talbot

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Please elaborate, unionism has been in the minority there pal since last elections.....wakey wakey please😂
The very simple point you missed is that NI exists until NI itself chooses otherwise, and the ROI acknowledges that.
 


Mickeymac

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The very simple point you missed is that NI exists until NI itself chooses otherwise, and the ROI acknowledges that.

Did not miss anything pal, simply stated facts which you chose to ignore and preferred to come back with BS......any idiot can see that fool😂
 

Lord Talbot

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Did not miss anything pal, simply stated facts which you chose to ignore and preferred to come back with BS......any idiot can see that fool
The make up of the present NI assembly is totally irrelevant to NI's legitimacy. Only NI's electorate can alter its status.
 

death or glory

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What exactly don't you understand about what I posted? Happy to explain it in simpler terms.
Me thinks you're wasting your time with Mickey.
 

Talk Back

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The Good Friday Agreement was approved by a large majority on the island of Ireland.

It is an international treaty signed by the UK and the Republic of Ireland and lodged with the UN.

Among the reasons Brexit is so offensive is that it tore up the GFA.

The reason the backstop is so important is that it maintains the GFA.
Why do you avoid answering questions put to you??? What has your post got to do with the question you were asked twice already???

So once again - In what way do you imagine the GFA drew a line under it? What excuses were you making for the Unionists before the GFA existed???

The majority of the people of Ireland want the reunification of our people, our country, and the end of England's ongoing occupation in Ireland - I've never seen a poll that stated otherwise.

Why is the question that the people of Ireland want asked, not allowed to be answered???

If there were real democracy in Ireland, England would have been shown the door a long time ago.

The Good Friday Agreement is for all intents and purposes just a rehash of the UK ‘Northern Ireland Constitution Act 1973' and the UK ‘Ireland Act 1949'.

So again, if they are Irish, why aren't they obeying the democratic will of the majority of the people of Ireland???

If they are Irish, why should they have an artificial veto on democracy in Ireland, backed up with an implicit threat of violence by a foreign country of occupation and its army???

Minoritarianism is the antithesis of democracy - unless and until the Unionists obey the democratic will of the Irish people, and assimilate into Irish society, they are still foreigners in Ireland - still occupying part of our country in another country's name - still holding Ireland back in the same way they always have, since they first stole Irish land from us Irish people.
 

Talk Back

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Your view on Northern Ireland's legitimacy is minoritarianism in full flight.
Hardly - the majority of the people of Ireland want the Frankenstein creation destroyed.

The abomination should not exist in the first place.

We Irish will have the whole of our country back - and soon.
 
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fifilawe

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be careful what you wish for, a bunch of recalcitrants , proud, stubborn , uncooperative Members in a United Ireland Assembly is not something to look forward to.Especially if they should hold the balance of power in this new United Assembly, and hold the future Govt to ransom to meet their demands for "their region".It would be Gombeen and parish pump politics at its worst something we could not handle in the present Republic.Believe me it would happen very soon and the price for accommodating "these regional interests in the UI" would be nothing like what we have seen already in our Republic.Personally speaking , a confederation would be "the better temporary solution" (50 years) till people would get used to dealing with each other as "equals but separate"
 

raetsel

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be careful what you wish for, a bunch of recalcitrants , proud, stubborn , uncooperative Members in a United Ireland Assembly is not something to look forward to.Especially if they should hold the balance of power in this new United Assembly, and hold the future Govt to ransom to meet their demands for "their region".It would be Gombeen and parish pump politics at its worst something we could not handle in the present Republic.Believe me it would happen very soon and the price for accommodating "these regional interests in the UI" would be nothing like what we have seen already in our Republic.Personally speaking , a confederation would be "the better temporary solution" (50 years) till people would get used to dealing with each other as "equals but separate"
What would be new about that? That sort of thing has been happening in Ireland since the foundation of the state.
 

michael-mcivor

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Tory May going cap in hand today to the EU begging to get Brexit delayed - the DUP wont be given a second thought now- Tory May looking a short extension so England won’t have to take part in this years EU elections in which the Tory’s will get shafted- but the EU could have different plans for the lag-behind English / DUP-
 

patwmcgee

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Isn't true that in a united Ireland, the two largest political parties would be Sinn Fein and the DUP (or other unionist entity). How well would this work in the governance of Ireland?
 

michael-mcivor

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Isn't true that in a united Ireland, the two largest political parties would be Sinn Fein and the DUP (or other unionist entity). How well would this work in the governance of Ireland?
Fine Gael / Fianna Fáil in partnership in Government in the All- Ireland- the other main contender is Sinn Fein- Unionists just haven’t got the votes across Ireland like they have no votes at all from England Scotland Wales-
 

michael-mcivor

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That's up to NI, not me. I have no problem with whatever NI decides to do.
( Northern ) Ireland and the 26 Ireland- we all jump together in the border-poll-( should be easier after the Provo war removed the 1920 government of Ireland act ant the act of union- all dressed up in a Peace-Process-)-
 

Talk Back

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The vast majority of Irish people recognise NI.
Recognise it and want it destroyed.

The majority of the people of Ireland want the reunification of our people, our country, and the end of England's ongoing occupation in Ireland - I've never seen a poll that stated otherwise.
 


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