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DUP welcomes the UDA's Frank McCoubrey into its ranks.


theloner

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A leading figure in the UPRG until now, and leading UDA representative Frank McCoubrey has joined the DUP. It's not the first time McCoubrey has flirted with mainstream unionist parties, back in 2000, the Ulster Unionist Party nominated the member of the then loyalist Ulster Democratic Party, which is linked to the UDA, as deputy mayor. The UDA was at the time engaged in a bloody feud with the UVF.

But DUP leader Peter Robinson said: "Frank is a very well-known representative in the greater Shankill area and he has worked very closely with the party in tackling issues which affect people living in that area."

Last year the UPRG travelled to a meeting in Dublin with The Taoiseach under Garda escort. The delegation included Tommy Kirkham, Frankie Gallagher, Frank McCoubrey, loyalist prisoner representative Stanley Fletcher, and Jackie McDonald, the UDA brigadier in South Belfast.

McCoubrey courted controversy when he was deputy mayor when the Alliance Party had tabled a motion to censure McCoubrey after he sat on the stage at a UDA-linked festival on the Shankill Road in Belfast when masked gunmen and women walked up and fired a volley of shots cheered by a large crowd. Lines of masked loyalists marched beneath a mural depicting loyalism as the grim reaper. On the platform, Johnny Adair and Michael Stone were joined by deputy lord mayor Frank McCoubrey and UDP chair John White.

He claimed afterwards that 'I went to the festival with my three children and my intentions were to have a great day with the children and go home'. And he 'did not know masked men would appear'


Looks like a great family day out.

BBC News - Frank McCoubrey joining the DUP

So the DUP has another former terrorist who was at the cutting edge of the struggle to keep Ulster British and the drugs money in the correct bank accounts. The hypocrisy is astounding.
 


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Hypocrites.
They condemn SDLP for not being fully supportive of Party colleague Samuel Brush in Dungannon.
Paddy Wison......SDLP councillor and incidently a family friend was murdered in 1973 by a man who later went on to become a prominent spokes-person for UDP.
 

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Listen lads, no need to get hysterical. One swallow does not make a summer. Now if a leading DUP member had stood on a platform before, shoulder to shoulder with a leading loyalist murderer you would have a reason to condemn. If they had marched armed men in protests, if they had lead hundreds of men onto the streets of isolated communities harrassing and intimidating, if they had links to shadowy groups and associated themselves with militia then you would have grounds to complain.
 

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Don't equate loyalist paramilitaries with the protestant working class. Also don't equate Frank McCoubrey with David Ervine.
that is exactly what you did and do... as for Ervine and Mccoubrey* pray do tell in your opinion is one a good loyalist paramilitary and the other a bad loyalist paramilitary?

*tbh i know nothing about him.
 

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The DUP are a bunch if lunatics,so another one is hardly here nor there.

Is this McCoubrey an ex loyalist prisoner?
 

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I am afraid you just do not get it - do you?
oh i get it alright the OP is saying (paraphrasing to cut out all the boring sh ite) ' you lot can't say anything about our lot coz your lot are nearly as bad as our lot, so now i am on a high horse to tell you lot how hypocritical you are' but of course realising the hypocrisy of the OP is beyond the OP's capabilities...
 

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that is exactly what you did and do... as for Ervine and Mccoubrey* pray do tell in your opinion is one a good loyalist paramilitary and the other a bad loyalist paramilitary?

*tbh i know nothing about him.

No - Ervine knew some big words so obviously his crimes were understandable. The problem here is that the finger pointing about inextricably linked et cetera is shown to be a hypocracy.
 

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No - Ervine knew some big words so obviously his crimes were understandable. The problem here is that the finger pointing about inextricably linked et cetera is shown to be a hypocracy.
- yeah i never got all the hype about Irvine just because he swallowed a dictionary.

- try and use your brain the OP is only highlighting his and your hypocrisy... think about it, it will come to you...
 

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A sensible move when viewed on the whole. We cannot on the one hand bemoan the violence and recalcitrance of the Loyalist working classes, and, at the same time, refuse them entry to the established political parties.

I trust Robinson knows what he's doing....
 

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Don't equate loyalist paramilitaries with the protestant working class. Also don't equate Frank McCoubrey with David Ervine.
Why not? As far as I am aware McCoubrey was never convicted of anything to do with terrorism albeit he was a member of the UDP / UPRG the political wing of the UDA whereas Ervine was a convicted UVF terrorist.
 

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Why not? As far as I am aware McCoubrey was never convicted of anything to do with terrorism albeit he was a member of the UDP / UPRG the political wing of the UDA whereas Ervine was a convicted UVF terrorist.
Yes but I assume he was guilty of attending parliamilitary funerals though.
 

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OK, so a former member of the UDP is welcomed into the ranks of the DUP.

If you simply move the "D" and "U" in "UDP" around, you get "DUP" anyhow.

So what is the problem?
 

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Why not? As far as I am aware McCoubrey was never convicted of anything to do with terrorism albeit he was a member of the UDP / UPRG the political wing of the UDA whereas Ervine was a convicted UVF terrorist.
Oh FFS, are you also aware that neither has Gerry Adams been convicted of anything to do with "terrorism"........Frankyboy likes to keep bad company......BBC News | NORTHERN IRELAND | Deputy mayor avoids censure
 

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Another reason for normal Unionists to not vote DUP. A lot of people I know have turned away from them. For some reason I can't understand they are still in power.

Hopefully people will stop voting them in the next election. They and their supporters can't shout at Sinn Fien for having terrorists in their party then appoint one into their own.
 

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In fairness, membership of the UDA wasn't an offence for many years anyway, even if he was a member.
 

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