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'President of the Irish Council of Churches'...

Amazing Bridget. Simply Amazing. :D
It was a good deal for Northern Ireland. Given the circumstances it was actually far better than anyone could have reasonably hoped for.
 


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Nurses..there is no money tree

Tower residents....we don't have the money to re-home you

DUP....here's a billion for fleas...
Interesting interview with Chris Patten on the BBC just now wherre he raised those points.......

"Mr Patten the PM said during the election there is no magic money tree...?"

"Well is seems to be growing fine and well in Northern Ireland....!..."

He also said that there was no need for a deal as the DUP would never have caused another election and put Labour into power and the the Tories have no plan for Brexit and what they are currently proposing in nonsense which is leaving the EU but retaining the benefits of full members and it can't happen..........


He also said the deal put a spotlight on people in the DUP and a lot of people in Britain aren't liking what they are seeing....
 
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It isn't really a workable situation having a single currency without having a central political authority to set interest rates, etc however the 2008 depression got in the way of Brussels putting one into effect as well as popular discontent and in some places resistance to the EU project. Indeed the current situation has crippled notably for us the ROI's ability to economically recover. The fact that the UK prudently stayed outside of the Euro meant that sooner or later She exiting the EU, the referendum only accelerated the process.
Nonsense. The ROI's insistence on light touch regulation during "de boom" is what crippled the economy. And an insistence on calling all naysayers economic traitors and offering them a dark room, a revolver and a bottle of whiskey. Oh, that and the fact that the UK, since the time of Thatcher, has never bothered to take the lead in Europe, preferring to stand on the sidelines moaning. De Gaulle was right. Europe should never have let them in.
 
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It was a good deal for Northern Ireland. Given the circumstances it was actually far better than anyone could have reasonably hoped for.
Yes. Getting money that was already promised, is by all accounts "a good deal" :D

 
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Interesting interview with Chris Patten on the BBC just now wherre he raised those points.......

"Mr Patten the PM said during the election there is no magic money tree...?"

"Well is seems to be growing fine and well in Northern Ireland....!..."

He also said that there was no need for a deal as the DUP would never have caused another election and put Labour into power and the the Tories have no plan for Brexit and what they are currently proposing in nonsense which is leaving the EU but retaining the benefits of full members and it can't happen..........


He also said the deal put a spotlight on people in the DUP and a lot of people in Britain aren't liking what they are seeing....
Patten represents the Ken Clarke wing - pro-european and pragmatic. This is the start of the problems for the Tories. The likes of Patten and Clarke sticking their heads above the parapets and flying a flag to see if someone from that wing will make a push on May. I still think a Tory split is extremely likely.
 

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Patten represents the Ken Clarke wing - pro-european and pragmatic. This is the start of the problems for the Tories. The likes of Patten and Clarke sticking their heads above the parapets and flying a flag to see if someone from that wing will make a push on May. I still think a Tory split is extremely likely.
Yeah both are pro Europeans though not uncritical ones as Mr Patten described himself ......and that's alright because the EU needs reform..

Instead the people of England and Wales allowed themselves to suckered by the likes Gove,Farage,Johnson and Rees Mogg.... and now the same media who posioned the minds of a lot of people during the referendum are turning on the DUP as many of us saw coming.....


This won't end well over the longer term.......
 
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Yeah both are pro Europeans though not uncritical ones as Mr Patten described himself ......and that's alright because the EU needs reform..

Instead the people of England and Wales allowed themselves to suckered by the likes Gove,Farage,Johnson and Rees Mogg.... and now the same media who posioned the minds of a lot of people during the referendum are turning on the DUP as many of us saw coming.....


This won't end well over the longer term.......
But it's going to be a hell of a lot of fun along the way. y'know, like being transfixed by a car crash.
 

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It was a good deal for Northern Ireland. Given the circumstances it was actually far better than anyone could have reasonably hoped for.
Well in that case, 'Hip hip Horray!'. Can't wait til SF use that line on the Falls next election.

'Make Northern Ireland great again'
- Gerry A
 

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Nonsense. The ROI's insistence on light touch regulation during "de boom" is what crippled the economy. And an insistence on calling all naysayers economic traitors and offering them a dark room, a revolver and a bottle of whiskey. Oh, that and the fact that the UK, since the time of Thatcher, has never bothered to take the lead in Europe, preferring to stand on the sidelines moaning. De Gaulle was right. Europe should never have let them in.
Well it was a world wide event in 07/08. RoI's boom was at least partly caused by it's inability to dampen down the economy and in particular the property sector. Borrowers/investors/speculators had access to cheap money which was a direct result of being in the Eurozone.
I disagree re the UK position on Europe, I think the UK played a positive role during the Blairite administration, they stayed out of the euro which has been demonstrated as being the correct judgement call, it's the tory led govts which are semi-engaged with Europe.
 

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Interesting interview with Chris Patten on the BBC just now wherre he raised those points.......

"Mr Patten the PM said during the election there is no magic money tree...?"

"Well is seems to be growing fine and well in Northern Ireland....!..."

He also said that there was no need for a deal as the DUP would never have caused another election and put Labour into power and the the Tories have no plan for Brexit and what they are currently proposing in nonsense which is leaving the EU but retaining the benefits of full members and it can't happen..........


He also said the deal put a spotlight on people in the DUP and a lot of people in Britain aren't liking what they are seeing....
And it's beautiful.
 
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Well it was a world wide event in 07/08. RoI's boom was at least partly caused by it's inability to dampen down the economy and in particular the property sector. Borrowers/investors/speculators had access to cheap money which was a direct result of being in the Eurozone.
I disagree re the UK position on Europe, I think the UK played a positive role during the Blairite administration, they stayed out of the euro which has been demonstrated as being the correct judgement call, it's the tory led govts which are semi-engaged with Europe.
Tory led govts have been in place up to 74, then from 79 to 97, then from 2010 until now. Or, to put it another way, the majority of the time. And by that stage the damage was done. I take your point about 07/08, however back then the "boom was getting boomier" according to our betters. What's really behind BREXIT is stuff like this:

Britain loses three of four cases taken to European Court of Justice | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Or, to put it another way, not being permitted to play fast and loose with the rules as it suits them. Hence the EU's insistence on retaining some influence in the event of a deal.
 

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Well in that case, 'Hip hip Horray!'. Can't wait til SF use that line on the Falls next election.

'Make Northern Ireland great again'
- Gerry A
NIGA?

Racist!
 

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Nonsense. The ROI's insistence on light touch regulation during "de boom" is what crippled the economy. And an insistence on calling all naysayers economic traitors and offering them a dark room, a revolver and a bottle of whiskey. Oh, that and the fact that the UK, since the time of Thatcher, has never bothered to take the lead in Europe, preferring to stand on the sidelines moaning. De Gaulle was right. Europe should never have let them in.
Talk about taking Irish parochialness and self-importance (negative Irish traits a lot of Prods excel at it must be said) to extremities; Fianna Fail were responsible for a global depression? Seriously?

De Gaulle wanted a Europe of Fatherlands and not a technocratic Borg, the real reason he opposed the UK's entry was that he felt that the UK with all that "Special Relationship" nonsense was to much under the thumb of the Yanks.
 

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Why cannot you give credit where credit is due hollandia?

Of course the deal doesn't negate everything evil about the DUPed but when someone does good that should be acknowledged. That is only justice.
 
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Talk about taking Irish parochialness and self-importance (negative Irish traits a lot of Prods excel at it must be said) to extremities; Fianna Fail were responsible for a global depression? Seriously?

De Gaulle wanted a Europe of Fatherlands and not a technocratic Borg, the real reason he opposed the UK's entry was that he felt that the UK with all that "Special Relationship" nonsense was to much under the thumb of the Yanks.
Do point out where I said that. Then, I'll very happily point out why you're wrong.
 
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Why cannot you give credit where credit is due hollandia?

Of course the deal doesn't negate everything evil about the DUPed but when someone does good that should be acknowledged. That is only justice.
Because, it's not a good deal. Especially if you are a unionist.
 


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