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Dutch General Election 2017 - Can Geert Wilders become Prime-Minister?


picador

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The big story today is that prime-minister Mark Rutte of the centre-right VVD (Liberal) party took out full-page adverts in several newspapers in which he invited those who felt unable to integrate into Dutch society to leave the country.

Dutch PM Rutte: 'If you don't like it here, then leave' - BBC News

This comes a short time after Freedom Party (PVV) leader Geert Wilders conviction for a speech deemed to 'discriminate' against Moroccans.

Wilders, campaigning with the slogan 'Make The Netherlands Great Again', is running high in the polls could be leader of the biggest party.

Will Geert Wilders win the Dutch election? Latest polls for the Netherlands election 2017 | Politics | News | Daily Express

Rutte's newspaper-campaign is a non-too-subtle - and perhaps desperate - attempt to move onto to Wilders' populist anti-immigrant / anti-Islamic ground. Wilders is having none of it and castigated the current PM in the following terms: "The man of open borders, asylum tsunami, mass immigration, Islamisation, lies and deceit."

Were Wilders to top the poll he would need the support of other parties to form a government. Rutte said recently that he would not be prepared to work with Wilders after the election. Wilders wants to leave the EU, stop Islamic immigration, close all mosques, ban the Quran and strip criminals with dual-nationality of their Dutch citizenship.

Polling takes place on March 15.
 

stopdoingstuff

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Looks like he is at least winning the battle of ideas, which is enough.
 

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Hopefully not!
 

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If he wins the popular vote for the largest party will the same libtards that used that one against Trump be available for a quote ???

like Trump, I suspect Wilders couldn't give a flying fook about them either,

It is quite clear the buble living libtards are losing Joe Soap all over the western world as young native Europeans are finding it hard to get good jobs, affordable housing and are watching the third world just waltz in to live on social welfare for life, it is what it is and no amount of "human rights" mongers and "discrimination" guilt sellers proselytising to the traditional European voter in their now dis-proven ultra liberal bollixology is going to change that.

The game is up, grass root basic politics is part of the reason Trump/Brexit won, the media and dipso "celebrities" living in their ivory towers are being ignored at last.

The need for "celebrities" to enhance their profile with pleading charity causes while not really trying to understand the causes is just nauseating, ISIS is here because a vacuum was helped along by morons like Obama, the thousands dead in the Med and millions more trying to cross via Libya likewise.

Instead of intelligent, well informed experts telling us what is happening in the world we get clowns selling us their charities and never admonishing the likes of Obama or Merkel for their policies, that would be political ?? yet the same clowns certainly can get political when it comes to any politician on the right ??

wakey wakey time,,
 

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Dutch politics was along sectarian lines for a long time.

So much so they they had to have power-sharing between 1917–1967.
 

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Dutch politics was along sectarian lines for a long time.

So much so they they had to have power-sharing between 1917–1967.
Since 1918 Catholic schools in the Netherlands have been receiving 100% State funding. Likewise Calvinist schools and also State schools. The State-owned schools are secular.
 

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If he wins the popular vote for the largest party will the same libtards that used that one against Trump be available for a quote ???

like Trump, I suspect Wilders couldn't give a flying fook about them either,

It is quite clear the buble living libtards are losing Joe Soap all over the western world as young native Europeans are finding it hard to get good jobs, affordable housing and are watching the third world just waltz in to live on social welfare for life, it is what it is and no amount of "human rights" mongers and "discrimination" guilt sellers proselytising to the traditional European voter in their now dis-proven ultra liberal bollixology is going to change that.

The game is up, grass root basic politics is part of the reason Trump/Brexit won, the media and dipso "celebrities" living in their ivory towers are being ignored at last.

The need for "celebrities" to enhance their profile with pleading charity causes while not really trying to understand the causes is just nauseating, ISIS is here because a vacuum was helped along by morons like Obama, the thousands dead in the Med and millions more trying to cross via Libya likewise.

Instead of intelligent, well informed experts telling us what is happening in the world we get clowns selling us their charities and never admonishing the likes of Obama or Merkel for their policies, that would be political ?? yet the same clowns certainly can get political when it comes to any politician on the right ??

wakey wakey time,,
The celebrities need to start advocating we start voting for the alternative candidates . We vote out of spite to the ************************s .
 

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Tell us all about Dutch sectarian politics then .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_League_of_Roman_Catholic_Caucuses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman-Catholic_State_Party


The RKSP was founded 3 June 1926, as the continuation of the General League of Roman Catholic Caucuses. Since 1918, the General League called itself RKSP informally. Instead of the loose league of caucuses with little party discipline, as the General League was, the RKSP became a real party, with stronger party discipline and organisation. In 1922 another Catholic party, the Roman Catholic People's Party, was founded by former members of the General League. It was oriented towards Catholic workers. The General League received little competition from this party, but accelerated the RKSP's process of party-formation.

During the 1920s and the 1930s, the RKSP was the biggest party in the Netherlands, receiving a steady 30% percent of the vote at each election. During this entire period the party was in government, in coalition with the Anti-Revolutionary Party (ARP) and the Christian Historical Union (CHU), two Protestant parties. This coalition was called the Coalition. Despite its success, the party was blocked from many political offices. Positions like the Vice-President of the Council of State and the President of the Senate and House of Representatives of the States General were all occupied by Protestants. The RKSP also supplied only one Prime Minister, Charles Ruijs de Beerenbrouck, between 1929 and 1933.

The cooperation with the ARP and CHU was problematic. In 1925 the Ruijs de Beerenbrouck cabinet was composed of the ARP, the CHU and the General League fell over the Dutch representation at the Holy See. This issue continued to divide the RKSP and the CHU and the ARP, as did the prohibition of traditional marches by Catholic churches and the role of government in the economy. The second Colijn cabinet fell because the RKSP wanted a more interventionist economic policy, but that cabinet was restored. In 1939, however, the fourth Colijn cabinet fell again on economic policy. In 1939, a coalition of RKSP, CHU, Free-thinking Democratic League (VDB) and Social Democratic Workers' Party (SDAP) ended more than 20 years of Coalition government.

After World War II, the RKSP was replaced by the Catholic People's Party.
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_People's_Party

Up till 1980 a Catholic party existed in the Netherlands.
I don't think Amster has ever had any serious discussions with Dutch people. Sectarianism in Holland is very ingrained and often pretty intense. Mitsui2 here said that they had loads of Dutch friends many of whom were very Right wing but that none of them would vote for Wilders because he is to extreme- totally clueless as just how hard line Rightist a lot of the other Dutch Right are!
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_People's_Party

Up till 1980 a Catholic party existed in the Netherlands.
Dutch Catholicism is a funny old thing, though - very Dutch. A good example of how the RCC is more of a coalition than a monolith.

When JPII visited the Netherlands in 1985 he was met at the airport by protestors - the great majority of whom were Catholic.

Otherwise - apart from a satirical song called "Popie Jopie" that was quite a big hit in the pop charts that summer - the visit was more than a bit of a damp squib.

For a lot of us Irish who were in Holland at the time it made for a fascinating contrast with the love-in we'd seen in Ireland a few years before.
 

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Elections on the horizon in the Netherlands and France. Rutte steals some of the clothes of Wilders and Fillon steals those of Le Pen. Well who would have thunk it.
 

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It's a pretty stupid idea for Rutte to simultaneously adopt some of Wilders' ideas while at the same time refuse to consider the possibility of a coalition with him. I'd imagine a lot of Dutch voters will see through Rutte's cynicism.

Hopefully Wilders will become prime minister. I like him.
 
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