Eamon de Valera on the EU

Connollyist a/c no.2

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''We did not strive to get out of the British domination of our affairs by outside force, nor we did not get out of that position to get into a worse one.'' - Eamon de Valera, 1955 commenting on discussions regarding the formaton of an EU type organisation taking place in strasburg.

''For economic and other reasons we had refused to be satisfied with a representative of, say, one in six, as was our representation in the British parliament. Our representation in the European assembly was, I think, something like four out of 120 or some number of that magnitude. That is, instead of being out-voted on matters that we would have regarded as of important interest to us by five or six to one, we would have been out-voted by 30 or 40 to one" - Eamon de valera, same date regarding the same thing

dev would be ashamed that the party he has founded suports the eu.

source = History warns us about the risks of ceding power to EU - Independent.ie
 


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''We did not strive to get out of the British domination of our affairs by outside force, nor we did not get out of that position to get into a worse one.'' - Eamon de Valera, 1955 commenting on discussions regarding the formaton of an EU type organisation taking place in strasburg.

''For economic and other reasons we had refused to be satisfied with a representative of, say, one in six, as was our representation in the British parliament. Our representation in the European assembly was, I think, something like four out of 120 or some number of that magnitude. That is, instead of being out-voted on matters that we would have regarded as of important interest to us by five or six to one, we would have been out-voted by 30 or 40 to one" - Eamon de valera, same date regarding the same thing

dev would be ashamed that the party he has founded suports the eu.

source = History warns us about the risks of ceding power to EU - Independent.ie
Dev was a cvnt.
 

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''We did not strive to get out of the British domination of our affairs by outside force, nor we did not get out of that position to get into a worse one.'' - Eamon de Valera, 1955 commenting on discussions regarding the formaton of an EU type organisation taking place in strasburg.

''For economic and other reasons we had refused to be satisfied with a representative of, say, one in six, as was our representation in the British parliament. Our representation in the European assembly was, I think, something like four out of 120 or some number of that magnitude. That is, instead of being out-voted on matters that we would have regarded as of important interest to us by five or six to one, we would have been out-voted by 30 or 40 to one" - Eamon de valera, same date regarding the same thing

dev would be ashamed that the party he has founded suports the eu.

source = History warns us about the risks of ceding power to EU - Independent.ie

Bull.

De Valera sucked up BIG time to de Gaulle, and was deeply unhappy the French veto of U.K. membership blocked Irelands accession as well.
 

Connollyist a/c no.2

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The EU developed from the EEC. Irish referenda approved and validated that development.

Unlike de Valera looking into his heart to know how the Irish felt, they were actually asked first in such referenda.
they are VERY different organisations, you are really grasping at straws here.
 

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''We did not strive to get out of the British domination of our affairs by outside force, nor we did not get out of that position to get into a worse one.'' - Eamon de Valera, 1955 commenting on discussions regarding the formaton of an EU type organisation taking place in strasburg.

''For economic and other reasons we had refused to be satisfied with a representative of, say, one in six, as was our representation in the British parliament. Our representation in the European assembly was, I think, something like four out of 120 or some number of that magnitude. That is, instead of being out-voted on matters that we would have regarded as of important interest to us by five or six to one, we would have been out-voted by 30 or 40 to one" - Eamon de valera, same date regarding the same thing

dev would be ashamed that the party he has founded suports the eu.

source = History warns us about the risks of ceding power to EU - Independent.ie
The difference is Ireland is rarely out voted in the EU as we have great common interest on most issues there.
 

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Reread your own OP - 'Eamon de Valera, 1955 commenting on discussions regarding the formaton of an EU type organisation taking place in strasburg'.
right, whats your point?

Dev was talking about a european organisation that is federal or semi-federal like it is today.
 

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right, whats your point?

Dev was talking about a european organisation that is federal or semi-federal like it is today.
My point is that NONE of that is in evidence from your OP. You're simply trying to take a poor swipe and can't choose which target you hate the most - modern Fianna Fáil or the European Union.

Poor attempt - F-.
 


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