EAT rewards shop steward work dodger who told colleague to slow down

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This is a typical example of how the State's Industrial Relations machinery rewards slacktavists and punishes businesses

Dunnes worker sacked for telling colleague to
the EAT said Ms Buckley had made a major contribution to her own dismissal.

In evidence, the colleague, named as “MS”, said that Ms Buckley had approached him and said that he had to slow down in order to create more work.
MS said Ms Buckley then had a text sent to him through a colleague that again told him to slow down at work.
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Eileen Buckley awarded €9,330 for unfair dismissal at Employment Appeals Tribunal
A shop steward trying the above on is fraud ...our baroque IR machinery is stashed full of slacktavist luvvies...these matters should be dealt with by the regular courts, where justice would be served. Also slacktavists like Ms Buckley should be booted to North Korea if they make themselves unemployable.

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This is a typical example of how the State's Industrial Relations machinery rewards slacktavists and punishes businesses

Dunnes worker sacked for telling colleague to


A shop steward trying the above on is fraud ...our baroque IR machinery is stashed full of slacktavist luvvies...these matters should be dealt with by the regular courts, where justice would be served. Also slacktavists like Ms Buckley should be booted to North Korea if they make themselves unemployable.

cyp
Jesus, cYp, since when did you have any interest in Dunnes?

I mean, isnt that a totally plebeian outlet?
 

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Jesus, cYp, since when did you have any interest in Dunnes?

I mean, isnt that a totally plebeian outlet?
I avoid it on ethical grounds ...but that still doesn't mean I can't oppose it being a breeding ground for professional slacktavists ...bad enough that most of the Public Service are in sheltered workfare, without their extending legally dubious paramilitary aid to suborn the productive sector

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Minimum wage warriors would be very stupid to let some renegade set a new level of exploitation as they know that this would soon become the norm - and they ain't stupid.

This is the ongoing battle - Marxists call it the class struggle - between the owners of the means of producing wealth and those who actually produce the wealth. If some Uncle Tom voluntarily cuts more cotton to please Massa, he shouldn't expect a welcome in the slave quarters.

Dunnes Stores is actually among the more decent employers in the industry but the workers are not going to be easily duped.
 

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We should have Taylorism.

Taylor got the biggest, strongest worker in the steel factory to hump Iron from one place to another. This guy moved three times as much metal as the next nearest guy, so Taylor paid him a dividend.

Dunnes should pay workers more for doing more work.

Let's have some real capitalism if we are going to have capitalism at all.

And when the banks fudge up, let them go bust :)
 

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This is a typical example of how the State's Industrial Relations machinery rewards slacktavists and punishes businesses

Dunnes worker sacked for telling colleague to


A shop steward trying the above on is fraud ...our baroque IR machinery is stashed full of slacktavist luvvies...these matters should be dealt with by the regular courts, where justice would be served. Also slacktavists like Ms Buckley should be booted to North Korea if they make themselves unemployable.

cyp
I remember there was this lunatic at work that use to surpass all targets and everyone else was measured against him. This lunatic used to actually run in the workplace and the sweat would be rolling of him. Management loved him and of course he was hated by all of his colleagues. Eventually this individual had some sort of mental breakdown and all of a sudden there was a change in Managements target numbers. I wonder was the above Dunnes worker a similar type of individual???
 

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The EAT no more than the courts is not about justice, if it were she would have found herself out on her arse, it's about the application of the law, a different animal.

Dunnes apparently didn't follow procedure and her award is on that basis, not because she shouldn't have been sacked.

What speed the worker in question was operating at was none of her business and if she or the other workers felt some pressure because of it that can only be because they were slacking, if not, why not just let him/her knock themselves out, no skin off their nose.
 

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The EAT no more than the courts is not about justice, if it were she would have found herself out on her arse, it's about the application of the law, a different animal.

Dunnes apparently didn't follow procedure and her award is on that basis, not because she shouldn't have been sacked.

What speed the worker in question was operating at was none of her business and if she or the other workers felt some pressure because of it that can only be because they were slacking, if not, why not just let him/her knock themselves out, no skin off their nose.
Its is "skin off their nose" if workers are measured off someone who maybe surpassing work targets in a dangerous manner.
 

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Dunnes workers always have a defeated look about them.
 

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Its is "skin off their nose" if workers are measured off someone who maybe surpassing work targets in a dangerous manner.
No its not, either they and their union can justify & stand over their work rate or they can't, nothing to do with Mr/Mrs Speedy.
 

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Minimum wage warriors would be very stupid to let some renegade set a new level of exploitation as they know that this would soon become the norm - and they ain't stupid.

This is the ongoing battle - Marxists call it the class struggle - between the owners of the means of producing wealth and those who actually produce the wealth. If some Uncle Tom voluntarily cuts more cotton to please Massa, he shouldn't expect a welcome in the slave quarters.

Dunnes Stores is actually among the more decent employers in the industry but the workers are not going to be easily duped.
It isn't, they are awful people.
 

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Dunnes workers always have a defeated look about them.
Same with Tesco. I was in Lidl last night all the staff were buzzing, uniforms looked like 21st century attire and it was an all round pleasant retail experience.
 

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No its not, either they and their union can justify & stand over their work rate or they can't, nothing to do with Mr/Mrs Speedy.
Most private sector companies do not have the benefits of Unions, so workers can be exploited, simple as! Not everyone has the same abilities and it is wrong to measure workers against people who work in a dangerous manner.
 

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Dunnes, like many industries, exist on a a sort of state socialist type capitalism, where the state supplies cheap labour or subsidises workers income through casual slips, FIS and workfare schemes like jobridge and CE.

The wealthy in our society could not exist for long without these government taxpayer funded schemes.

The taxpayer subsidises the wealth of Dunnes et al, they are state socialist capitalists :)
 

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Dunnes workers always have a defeated look about them.
You would too if every item that fell off a shelf was a race between the cleaning crew and and an ambulance chaser with a client who has a predisposition to PTSD to see who can get to it first.
 

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Dunnes Cornelsourt is the finest supermarket in the country. Dunnes also employs far more staff than the Germans.
 


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