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eFlow tags no longer valid on some motorways

hollandia

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I've just received the following email from eFlow customer services:

From August 31st 2016 until further notice, your eFlow tag will no longer work at toll plazas operated by the Celtic Roads Group (CRG).

The following tolls roads will be affected:
M1 (Gormanston – Monasterboice)
M7/M8 (Portlaoise – Castletown/Portlaoise – Cullahill)
N25 (Waterford City Bypass)
This means that you will have to pay with cash at these toll plazas; your tags will not be recognised, the barriers will not raise.
At present, in order for a tag to be recognised as you pass through a toll plaza, the operator of the toll (CRG) must have an Agreement with the tag provider (eFlow). Unfortunately, due to reasons outside of our control, an Agreement has not yet been made. This means, until further notice, eFlow tag customers will not be able to use their tags at CRG toll plazas.

In the meantime, your eFlow tag will continue operate as normal at the following toll plazas:
M50 Barrier-Free Toll
M3 (Clonee - Kells)
M4 (Kilcock – Enfield – Kinnegad)
N6 (Galway – Ballinasloe)
N8 (Rathcormac – Fermoy Bypass)
East-Link Bridge
Dublin Port Tunnel
Limerick Tunnel
If, because of this, you decide to close your account with us, please give us a call on the number below and return your eFlow tag to the below address:
eFlow,
Cape House,
Westend Office Park,
Blanchardstown,
Dublin 15
We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience this may cause.

eFlow Customer Service Team
https://www.eflow.ie/community/sponsorship/up-to-80-000-motorists-ma/index.xml

It would appear that joined up thinking is as far away from us mere plebs as it ever was. It now seems apparent that in the drive to extract as much money from us as possible for using our infrastructure, the commercial entities that run Ireland's main roads cannot agree a joint system that allows the minimum of hassle and cost from the motorist.

Given, that the M50 toll was meant to be abolished quite some time ago, and this eFlow system was brought in in its stead, is this yet another instance of the commuter/traveller being screwed over because of a lack of foresight from the Dept. of Transport?
 


hollandia

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I heard you can use several companies, not just eFlow, and they will work on tolls.
The problem is, that the M50 toll is the single most used tolling point in the country, and eFlow operate that particular system. As someone who travels a lot throughout Ireland for work purposes, the failure to agree a service agreement has increased my costs. Add to that people who commute to dublin and have to travel through the m50 and the cost to the consumer soon ads up.

AS ususal the consumer gets screwed, and govt do nothing.
 

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Another indictment of capitalism - private companies trying to get one up on one another as they all milk the state for subsidies while working class people carry the can. You couldn't make this sh*t up. Simple solution - tell the private companies to f*ck off and abolish the tolls altogether.
 

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The problem is, that the M50 toll is the single most used tolling point in the country, and eFlow operate that particular system. As someone who travels a lot throughout Ireland for work purposes, the failure to agree a service agreement has increased my costs. Add to that people who commute to dublin and have to travel through the m50 and the cost to the consumer soon ads up.

AS ususal the consumer gets screwed, and govt do nothing.

Errrrr....

In the meantime, your eFlow tag will continue operate as normal at the following toll plazas:
M50 Barrier-Free Toll
 

Disillusioned democrat

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The problem is, that the M50 toll is the single most used tolling point in the country, and eFlow operate that particular system. As someone who travels a lot throughout Ireland for work purposes, the failure to agree a service agreement has increased my costs. Add to that people who commute to dublin and have to travel through the m50 and the cost to the consumer soon ads up.

AS ususal the consumer gets screwed, and govt do nothing.
That accusation is wildly inaccurate!!!

The government will do their best to make sure that the companies thet license to collect tolls on their behalf do very, very well out of the deal, to such an extent that if the scumbag motorists find alternative ways to get to/from work and traffic volumes don't meet the high expectations of the tolling companies that the Government will pay them out of direct taxation.

Since P Flynn and George Redmond signed the West Link over to NTR this sector of "private enterprise" has been a goldmine.
 

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Another indictment of capitalism - private companies trying to get one up on one another as they all milk the state for subsidies while working class people carry the can. You couldn't make this sh*t up. Simple solution - tell the private companies to f*ck off and abolish the tolls altogether.
How do you know that eFlow wasn't trying to screw more money out of the infrastructure owners? You know, profiteering?
 

Spanner Island

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The problem is, that the M50 toll is the single most used tolling point in the country, and eFlow operate that particular system. As someone who travels a lot throughout Ireland for work purposes, the failure to agree a service agreement has increased my costs. Add to that people who commute to dublin and have to travel through the m50 and the cost to the consumer soon ads up.

AS ususal the consumer gets screwed, and govt do nothing
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The more money we're charged for everything, the more tax the 'state' takes from us to blow... because the 'state' has its dirty mits in our pockets in every transaction other than brown envelope and cash in hand transactions etc.

Don't expect 'establishment' Ireland to do anything about this.

Theyr'e f***ing useless for the most part and possibly have all sorts of friends, family, acquaintances benefiting from the resurgence of Rip Off Ireland.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Another indictment of capitalism - private companies trying to get one up on one another as they all milk the state for subsidies while working class people carry the can. You couldn't make this sh*t up. Simple solution - tell the private companies to f*ck off and abolish the tolls altogether.
Crazy talk...what kind of anarchy are you suggesting where people who add no value to your day can't extract a toll from you to make them more wealthy than you could ever hope to be because they know the right people....tosh!!!!
 

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The more money we're charged for everything, the more tax the 'state' takes from us to blow... because the 'state' has its dirty mits in our pockets in every transaction other than brown envelope and cash in hand transactionse etc.

Don't expect 'establishment' Ireland to do anything about this.

Theyr'e f***ing useless for the most part and most definitely have all sorts of friends, family, acquaintances benefiting from the resurgence of Rip Off Ireland.
Fixed that for you
 

hollandia

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Can you not just use a company that works for all of them(or is there one?)?
Well, that aside, and I'm not sure there is a toll tag for all motorways (I may be wrong), but eflow is cheaper on the M50 than the others afaik. Considering I make 40 plus journeys on the M50 per month, going to a more expensive alternative doesn't really work for me.
 

hollandia

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Seems Easy Trip offers tag for all tolls including the M50. Also looks like its the same price.

It seems eFlow could not agree a price with certain toll operators but Easy Trip did?
Or Easytrip's agreement is not up for renewal.
 

Harmonica

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Or Easytrip's agreement is not up for renewal.
Probably.

Even if the toll operators also provide tag service surely they'd have to offer same rate to both their own tag department & eFlow. Also I wonder are toll operators legally required to offer express lane. None of the tolls around the country have significant queues so the only benefit to them is collecting payment electronically.
 

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