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Election Posters


Bart

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Any one know what is the position with putting up election posters prior to the election being called......I see that some are already appearing in Tralee? :?:
 

Gombeen

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Bart said:
Any one know what is the position with putting up election posters prior to the election being called......I see that some are already appearing in Tralee? :?:
They've been up numerous places and a few politicians have been stung for doing so, like Charlie O'Connor in South-West Dublin.

It is illegal to hang posters/billboards that say "Vote Number 1. for Candidate X" before the Dáil has been dissolved, AFAIK
 

rockofcashel

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they are up all over the place in South Tipp, and have been for a month now. Currently it is illeagal to have them up, but no-ones doing anything about it.
 

Gombeen

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rockofcashel said:
they are up all over the place in South Tipp, and have been for a month now. Currently it is illeagal to have them up, but no-ones doing anything about it.
Maybe no one has reported them, or don't know that it illegal. Or don't know who to report it to.
Isn't this the sort of thing that a vigilant and energetic SF local representative should be highlighting? All it takes is a phone call or an email.
 

gaelach

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Gombeen said:
rockofcashel said:
they are up all over the place in South Tipp, and have been for a month now. Currently it is illeagal to have them up, but no-ones doing anything about it.
Maybe no one has reported them, or don't know that it illegal. Or don't know who to report it to.
Isn't this the sort of thing that a vigilant and energetic SF local representative should be highlighting? All it takes is a phone call or an email.
Not if his posters are up to! :wink:
 

Gombeen

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gaelach said:
Gombeen said:
rockofcashel said:
they are up all over the place in South Tipp, and have been for a month now. Currently it is illeagal to have them up, but no-ones doing anything about it.
Maybe no one has reported them, or don't know that it illegal. Or don't know who to report it to.
Isn't this the sort of thing that a vigilant and energetic SF local representative should be highlighting? All it takes is a phone call or an email.
Not if his posters are up to! :wink:
How inspiring! :roll: Is it the County Council who should be informed? (Don't worry ROC, I'm nowhere near South Tipp and I've no intention of addressing the issue there. Though someone else might if you're not careful.)
 

gaelach

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Gombeen said:
gaelach said:
Gombeen said:
rockofcashel said:
they are up all over the place in South Tipp, and have been for a month now. Currently it is illeagal to have them up, but no-ones doing anything about it.
Maybe no one has reported them, or don't know that it illegal. Or don't know who to report it to.
Isn't this the sort of thing that a vigilant and energetic SF local representative should be highlighting? All it takes is a phone call or an email.
Not if his posters are up to! :wink:
How inspiring! :roll: Is it the County Council who should be informed? (Don't worry ROC, I'm nowhere near South Tipp and I've no intention of addressing the issue there. Though someone else might if you're not careful.)
Hold on now, I`m not saying they are up, I don`t know, Have never been to S.Tipp.

I Was only joking....
 

qtman

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Bart said:
Any one know what is the position with putting up election posters prior to the election being called......I see that some are already appearing in Tralee? :?:
Under S19 of the Ltter Pollution Act, 1997, it is illegal to put up any poster in any public place, unless:

You have the permission of the owner of the structure
The poster relates to a public meeting
The poster relates to an election

The Act doesn't really define what 'relates to an election' means, but it is generally held that a poster cannot relate to an election unless an election has been called under one of the Electoral Acts.

A poster which relates to an election is also illegal if it remains in place 7 days after polling day.

Bottom line is that any political posters that are currently erected without permission of the owner of the structures to which they are attached are illegal.

But then again, the Litter Pollution Act, 1997 isn't worth the paper it is written on.
 

rockofcashel

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They aren't up. I've no time for such illegal behaviour. :wink:

Yes, if you wish to make a complaint, you do so to the county council, under littering regulations.

However, a birdy down here told me, that the person who's in charge of taking them down, is an election worker for one of the candidates.
 

Gombeen

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rockofcashel said:
However, a birdy down here told me, that the person who's in charge of taking them down, is an election worker for one of the candidates.
Well the best way to deal with that is to make sure some of their superiors know about it too, so they can't conveniently 'forget' to enforce it. The more people who know about it and the fact that it's illegal, the harder it will be for the vested interests to ignore the issue.
 

The Analyser

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qtman said:
Bart said:
Any one know what is the position with putting up election posters prior to the election being called......I see that some are already appearing in Tralee? :?:
Under S19 of the Ltter Pollution Act, 1997, it is illegal to put up any poster in any public place, unless:

You have the permission of the owner of the structure
The poster relates to a public meeting
The poster relates to an election

The Act doesn't really define what 'relates to an election' means, but it is generally held that a poster cannot relate to an election unless an election has been called under one of the Electoral Acts.
I suspect that if it was subject to judicial review, a different interpretation would be reached. One could argue that posters SHOULD only go up after the Dáil has been dissolved and an election called. But in a situation where we know that an election is guaranteed to happen because we are at the end of the statutory period when an election must take place, one could argue that posters put up now can be fairly described as 'relating to an election'. That would not be the case if an election was not a 100% guarantee, the normal case where an election is expected but don't have to be called. This case is different and the court would probably rule it as such, while slating the incompetent idiot who wrote the Act so badly.
 

qtman

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The Analyser said:
qtman said:
Bart said:
Any one know what is the position with putting up election posters prior to the election being called......I see that some are already appearing in Tralee? :?:
Under S19 of the Ltter Pollution Act, 1997, it is illegal to put up any poster in any public place, unless:

You have the permission of the owner of the structure
The poster relates to a public meeting
The poster relates to an election

The Act doesn't really define what 'relates to an election' means, but it is generally held that a poster cannot relate to an election unless an election has been called under one of the Electoral Acts.
I suspect that if it was subject to judicial review, a different interpretation would be reached. One could argue that posters SHOULD only go up after the Dáil has been dissolved and an election called. But in a situation where we know that an election is guaranteed to happen because we are at the end of the statutory period when an election must take place, one could argue that posters put up now can be fairly described as 'relating to an election'. That would not be the case if an election was not a 100% guarantee, the normal case where an election is expected but don't have to be called. This case is different and the court would probably rule it as such, while slating the incompetent idiot who wrote the Act so badly.
If that were the case, you could put up political posters all the time, as we're never more than 3 years from an election (Local or General).

I think a JD would find that there has to be some subjective measure of when an election is due, and that the dissolution of the Dail is that measure.
 

braz

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Seems Niall Collins is in this boat too with 5 posters in the Limerick area, two in Raheen and 3 on the Cork/Limerick Road. According to a little birdy from Mount St theres only two ways they should be up - 1) you or a friend owns the land and gives you permission or 2) the poster relates to a public meeting. Unfortunately for Mr Collins, the Vote 1 doesn't seem to relate to a public meeting nor does the fact that they're on the side of major national routes. Given his Uncle's special treatment by the Courts, it would be surprising to see the younger Collins fined the €1900 for littering, as would be the norm for average Joe's.

To the best of my knowledge at least three seperate complaints will be sent to Limerick County Council on Tuesday to see this 'litter' removed from our roadsides until the appropriate time. Its okay to have this type of thing up during an election or on a paid-for billboard but otherwise it does count as litter in my mind.
 

Coles

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Our Minister for the Environment and Local Government (and incineration), the Dick Roche, got into a spot of bother a week or two ago over a collosal billboard that was erected on land over looking a major road in East Wicklow. Apparantly it was 35ft x 15ft and he was advised that it was in breach of planning. A bit embarrassing given his portfolio...
 

an Toimíneach

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What's the story with the posters of Easter Lilys on lampposts around Arbourhill and Glasnevin? Who is responsible for them and when will they be taken down?

Edit: Only just realised that this thread is in the "Munster" forum. I was just looking for a general thread on election posters. Apologies.
 
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