Elon Musk’s 700mph Hyperloop?

silverharp

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Anyone familiar with this, dreamer with too much money ploughing his money into something that cant work or a visionary?



https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/28/hyperloop-one-metalworks/

Hyperloop One has announced that it's opening its first manufacturing plant to build the future of high-speed transportation. Metalworks is a 105,000 square foot facility in the city of North Las Vegas where components for DevLoop, the first testbed for the platform, will be constructed. As well as housing the company's new propulsion lab, the location will also be used to solve some of the more practical engineering challenges the technology faces. Employees will work to design and build supporting columns, cradles and the joints that keep everything held tightly together.






Phil Mason (AKA THunderf00t) doesnt seem impressed and reckons the whole concept wont work because of the various problems of running a large vacuum tube


[video=youtube;RNFesa01llk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk[/video]


[video=youtube;DDwe2M-LDZQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDwe2M-LDZQ[/video]
 


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Here's a conspiracy theory. In the 70's, Howard Hughes announced he was building a ship intended to mine minerals from the ocean floor. He was building such a ship but it was financed by the CIA and was used to recover a sunken Soviet nuclear submarine. There may be something being built but I doubt its a super train.:lol:
 

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Pay Pal, Tesla and Space X have been such incredible flops that this is surely another one.
 

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Could they come here and put the Luas across the city?
 

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Seems like fair points on the face of it but engineering difficulties always look difficult until they're solved. I think the fastest way to make this technology viable is to use it, perhaps in a smaller diameter, for freight travelling at 1500mph or faster. Less safety issues to make it work.
 

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Anyone familiar with this, dreamer with too much money ploughing his money into something that cant work or a visionary?



https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/28/hyperloop-one-metalworks/









Phil Mason (AKA THunderf00t) doesnt seem impressed and reckons the whole concept wont work because of the various problems of running a large vacuum tube


[video=youtube;RNFesa01llk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk[/video]


[video=youtube;DDwe2M-LDZQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDwe2M-LDZQ[/video]
Elon Musk's latest ploy to harvest hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayers money into his own pocket.

He is America's DO'B, but much hipper and cooler.
 

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Looks far fetched but then again a lot of the major technological advancements have looked complete pie in the sky at the drawing board stage.

How much of his own money is he putting into it?
 

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Looks far fetched but then again a lot of the major technological advancements have looked complete pie in the sky at the drawing board stage.

How much of his own money is he putting into it?
Concept has been around for along now

- the key issue is making it commercially viable....
 

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Building a tunnel and track that requires perfect alignment in an area choc'a'bloc full of active fault lines seems a bit idiotic to say the least, no matter how loudly they claim that it will be earthquake proof.
 

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Phil Mason (AKA THunderf00t) doesnt seem impressed and reckons the whole concept wont work because of the various problems of running a large vacuum tube
So, some dude who makes a living of youtube videos made in his bedroom seems to have it all figured out better than the actual people who are investing hard cash and spending every waking minute dealing with the design challenges of making it happen?

The modern world sure is something alright. A very simple rebuttal of his arguement is that Hyperloop will not be creating a vacuum, rather it will be reducing air pressure and density enough to significantly lower the friction the vehicle encounters within the loop. Once over 21mph, most of the energy in propelling your car is spent on air resistance, qed even reducing air resistance by a fraction increases the efficiency meaning faster lower energy journeys.

Musk and California in general are a sore reminder of how uninspired(insipid?) our own elites are in Ireland.
 

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When it reaches Warp factor 10 and changes it's name to Jackandbeanstalk inc, then i will invest.
 

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So, some dude who makes a living of youtube videos made in his bedroom seems to have it all figured out better than the actual people who are investing hard cash and spending every waking minute dealing with the design challenges of making it happen?

The modern world sure is something alright. A very simple rebuttal of his arguement is that Hyperloop will not be creating a vacuum, rather it will be reducing air pressure and density enough to significantly lower the friction the vehicle encounters within the loop. Once over 21mph, most of the energy in propelling your car is spent on air resistance, qed even reducing air resistance by a fraction increases the efficiency meaning faster lower energy journeys.

Musk and California in general are a sore reminder of how uninspired(insipid?) our own elites are in Ireland.
in fairness I should have said Dr Phil Mason who has worked with cern among other things. I think he is more a research chemist than an engineer but he has credentials. he has torn into ideas like the Solar Roadway in the past so he likes going after flakey ideas. No idea if he has called this one right
 

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in fairness I should have said Dr Phil Mason who has worked with cern among other things. I think he is more a research chemist than an engineer but he has credentials. he has torn into ideas like the Solar Roadway in the past so he likes going after flakey ideas. No idea if he has called this one right
He has a good rep alright, but he should also be aware that if he were an engineer on this project his job would be looking for technical solutions to some of the problems he's pointed out. In fact, that's kinda what the point of being an engineer is. He's obsessed with there being an almost total vacuum when he knows perfectly well that engineering works in repetitive iterations of improvement towards your target, not just magically arriving at it. Personally I'd bet that Musk and the Hyperloop crew know that they will only achieve a total percentage of their target but even then it will likely outperform ground transport speeds and air travel costs. You don't win investors, especially you don't win investors in California by being modest. Even investors want their investment hyped in the hope they might make a few bob of the hype cycle.
 

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Elon Musk's latest ploy to harvest hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayers money into his own pocket.

He is America's DO'B, but much hipper and cooler.
"Supports for business and enterprise"is a key component of the system,all eenterprises are at it.Enron spring to mind, somehow!
 

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Typical library shïte. You want to bring over an African to take our jobs!
Remember thetime GWB tried to take on the librarians and the librarians won the strike? Michael Moore commented, never piss off the librarians! He was correct.
 


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