End of the road for O'Dea?

Prof Honeydew

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Big loser in Limerick local elections appears to be Willie O'Dea. With the candidates enjoying the poisoned chalice of his support dropping like flies in the UL Arena, the Rat surprised nobody by not showing up at the count where all his erstwhile supporters were busy switching their loyalties to the Collins camp. Cllr James is almost certain to be on the FF ticket in the next General Election and, with the entire clan behind him, he ain't no lightweight like Peter Power or Eddie Wade.

The odds against O'Dea recovering the 13,000 votes lost in 2011 lengthened considerably when Maurice Quinlivan cleaned up in his former strongholds of Balla, Moyross, Thomondgate and the Island Field and other Sinn Fein candidates Seighin O Ceallaigh and Malachy McCreesh took a big vote in Prospect, Weston, Janesboro, Rathbane and Garryowen. Collins's vote in Raheen and Dooradoyle showed that he's set to do better than the Rat in other middle-class areas like Castletroy, Caherdavin and Corbally and Shane Clifford's impressive performane in Castleconnell and Lisnagry is also more likely to benefit Collins.

So, after three decades of running the Fianna Fail organisation as well as Limerick into the ground, it looks like he won't even be the main man on the FF ticket next time round. That is, if he even decides to stand. Political guts were never his strong point and his failure to show his face in the count centre suggests he may not have the stomach for a contest he might lose.
 


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I wouldn't underestimate WOD, he topped every election in Limerick East between 1989-2007. It depends how FF are performing in the polls, If FF have a decent chance of getting back into government he'll run again.
 

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williewatch will be devastated.petunia
 

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If Noonan doesn't run in the next election, WOD will top the poll. Even in 2011 WOD still came out with a respectable 16% FPVs even after FF completely destroyed the country.
 

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funnily enough his sister did not appear on the ballot paper for the kilmallock/cappamore area, in spite of she using his to get on it last time out.
 

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Big loser in Limerick local elections appears to be Willie O'Dea. With the candidates enjoying the poisoned chalice of his support dropping like flies in the UL Arena, the Rat surprised nobody by not showing up at the count where all his erstwhile supporters were busy switching their loyalties to the Collins camp. Cllr James is almost certain to be on the FF ticket in the next General Election and, with the entire clan behind him, he ain't no lightweight like Peter Power or Eddie Wade.

The odds against O'Dea recovering the 13,000 votes lost in 2011 lengthened considerably when Maurice Quinlivan cleaned up in his former strongholds of Balla, Moyross, Thomondgate and the Island Field and other Sinn Fein candidates Seighin O Ceallaigh and Malachy McCreesh took a big vote in Prospect, Weston, Janesboro, Rathbane and Garryowen. Collins's vote in Raheen and Dooradoyle showed that he's set to do better than the Rat in other middle-class areas like Castletroy, Caherdavin and Corbally and Shane Clifford's impressive performane in Castleconnell and Lisnagry is also more likely to benefit Collins.

So, after three decades of running the Fianna Fail organisation as well as Limerick into the ground, it looks like he won't even be the main man on the FF ticket next time round. That is, if he even decides to stand. Political guts were never his strong point and his failure to show his face in the count centre suggests he may not have the stomach for a contest he might lose.
He has nothing to worry about. Did nothing for the country of course but will live on in great wealth and comfort courtesy of his fat pension.
 

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he could shave off the moustache and pretend to be a different candidate, william o dea, or billy o dea, no one would suspect
 

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He has nothing to worry about. Did nothing for the country of course but will live on in great wealth and comfort courtesy of his fat pension.
And plenty more besides. From personal experience, I think of p Flynn multiplied by 10...
 

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I wouldn't underestimate WOD, he topped every election in Limerick East between 1989-2007. It depends how FF are performing in the polls, If FF have a decent chance of getting back into government he'll run again.
Absolutely. He got elected very comfortably when FF were at their lowest ever ebb. They won't be that low in the next GE.

When Skynet goes live and kills us all, all that will survive will be the roaches and WOD sitting on his throne of bones in Limerick.
 

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Big loser in Limerick local elections appears to be Willie O'Dea. With the candidates enjoying the poisoned chalice of his support dropping like flies in the UL Arena, the Rat surprised nobody by not showing up at the count where all his erstwhile supporters were busy switching their loyalties to the Collins camp. Cllr James is almost certain to be on the FF ticket in the next General Election and, with the entire clan behind him, he ain't no lightweight like Peter Power or Eddie Wade.

The odds against O'Dea recovering the 13,000 votes lost in 2011 lengthened considerably when Maurice Quinlivan cleaned up in his former strongholds of Balla, Moyross, Thomondgate and the Island Field and other Sinn Fein candidates Seighin O Ceallaigh and Malachy McCreesh took a big vote in Prospect, Weston, Janesboro, Rathbane and Garryowen. Collins's vote in Raheen and Dooradoyle showed that he's set to do better than the Rat in other middle-class areas like Castletroy, Caherdavin and Corbally and Shane Clifford's impressive performane in Castleconnell and Lisnagry is also more likely to benefit Collins.

So, after three decades of running the Fianna Fail organisation as well as Limerick into the ground, it looks like he won't even be the main man on the FF ticket next time round. That is, if he even decides to stand. Political guts were never his strong point and his failure to show his face in the count centre suggests he may not have the stomach for a contest he might lose.
Which if anything proves that FF voters have switched to SF voters

- and will expect the same kind of service

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose :?
 

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he could shave off the moustache and pretend to be a different candidate, william o dea, or billy o dea, no one would suspect
"That was all by evil twin Willie's doing! You can tell us apart, he's the one with the moustache!"
 

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I wouldn't underestimate WOD, he topped every election in Limerick East between 1989-2007. It depends how FF are performing in the polls, If FF have a decent chance of getting back into government he'll run again.
If he keeps up his never-ending canvass and keeps shoving leaflets advertising his clinics though the unfortunate letter-boxes of Limerick, he should hold the vote he got the last time which would be enough to re-elect him. But even with a Fianna Fail recovery next time around, he'll still struggle to increase his support as he's going to caught in a pincer movement of James Collins hitting him in middle-class and rural areas and Maurice Quinlivan eating into his vote in the estates.

So that raises the question of whether he has the stomach to continue his 24/7 walkabouts. He also needs his gang of happy faces around him when he's out on the streets. The mood at the count centre suggests that he might it difficult to find enough supporters for a credible presence on the doorstep. In just three years, he has already been replaced by Baldy Noonan as Limerick's main man, by Niall Collins as Fianna Fail's man in Limerick and by James Collins as FF's main man in the constituency. For someone so desperately conscious of his image as a man of influence, this has all the appearance of yesterday's man.
 

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Can't see it. After a Nuclear war the and the world virtually everything wiped out, there will be cockroaches and Willie.


And Hanifin.
 

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Yep, The Collins dynasty certainly seem to be on the up.

O'Dea's popularity is certainly on the wane although imho he will have the edge in terms of voter support in the GE but we shall see.

O'Dea will not get away with having a no hoper as a running mate next time around.

Either way though Willie will not suffer in his retirement.



"Limerick City TD Willie O’Dea has taken €8,500 in “step-down” payments this year, on top of his Dáil salary of €92,000.

He claimed €54,000 in golden handshake payments in 2010 after being forced to resign as minister for defence in February 2010."

FF TDs pocket cabinet pay-offs | Irish Examiner
 

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Yep, The Collins dynasty certainly seem to be on the up.

O'Dea's popularity is certainly on the wane although imho he will have the edge in terms of voter support in the GE but we shall see.

O'Dea will not get away with having a no hoper as a running mate next time around.

Either way though Willie will not suffer in his retirement.



"Limerick City TD Willie O’Dea has taken €8,500 in “step-down” payments this year, on top of his Dáil salary of €92,000.

He claimed €54,000 in golden handshake payments in 2010 after being forced to resign as minister for defence in February 2010."

FF TDs pocket cabinet pay-offs | Irish Examiner
It is possible that Willie might not rise again,but personally i would have to see that the stake in the heart was driven deep enough before being certain that the "Willymen" would no longer swarm the housing estates like locusts on saturday mornings.
 

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It is possible that Willie might not rise again,but personally i would have to see that the stake in the heart was driven deep enough before being certain that the "Willymen" would no longer swarm the housing estates like locusts on saturday mornings.
Agree 100%.

I haven't noticed the rat in the media during the local elections. Were FF trying to keep him hidden away like the mad aunt in the attic?

Yourself & Prof Honeydew proved to be the most astute political observers in Limerick's local election.
 

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Agree 100%.

I haven't noticed the rat in the media during the local elections. Were FF trying to keep him hidden away like the mad aunt in the attic?

Yourself & Prof Honeydew proved to be the most astute political observers in Limerick's local election.
WOD will not top the poll in Limerick in the next GE but if he runs he'll probably get in again.


Ah, yer after ruinin the cosy consensus here Nicky. Course he`ll run, just to show those other ffailures like williewatch there he can do it. petunia
 


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