Enda Kenny + 6 other Cabinet members cyber compromised

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I mentioned this in another thread http://www.politics.ie/forum/media/252392-irish-media-politicians-unseemly-closeness-dangerous-vulnerability.html

But as ever .... people are slow on the uptake
President responds to criticism of Castro remarks
Meanwhile, Mr Flanagan said he was “surprised” to learn that his private email and password details were stolen by international cyber criminals.

The Sunday Independent reported today that Taoiseach Enda Kenny and six other Cabinet members, including Minister Flanagan, had their information compromised by hackers responsible for the world's biggest hacking scandals.
The official government line is
"No evidence the Russians etc, read our stuff"

However ... what investigation did they carry out to assure themselves of that ?

How could they be sure stretching back years - given that access logs are rarely kept ?

What details of the investigation are they willing to publish ..surely ... the techniques used cannot be secret ?

Also ... how come Charlie Flanagan was "surprised" ... given how long this story has been out ? Does that not in and of itself... point towards there not having been an investigation ?

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Irish TDs would likely be unknown to the Gmail back office. They also tend to have their personal data available on Wiki and elsewhere.

Blair was notorious for eschewing the use of tech. He may have been very astute in that.
 

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Irish TDs would likely be unknown to the Gmail back office. They also tend to have their personal data available on Wiki and elsewhere.

Blair was notorious for eschewing the use of tech. He may have been very astute in that.
Now we know why O'Bama had a fight to have a blackberry. Because the NSA were hacking Merkel's!

Anyway I thought Kenny only had a Nokia?
I wonder if he showed it to the Pope today. Like he did to his predecessor
 

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Would be interesting to see what's developed out of it
 

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Endas password is whosyoursexydaddy.



All lower case
 

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Why would anyone above the age of 7 think that email or mobile phone messages are confidential?
 

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Why would anyone above the age of 7 think that email or mobile phone messages are confidential?
O'Bama, Merkel, H Clinton?
 

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The username and password for the Prime Minister's personal email being hacked is a very serious breach as is the successful hacking of 6 other minister's private email accounts. This serious breach is tacked on as an afterthought to the rté story. Just another among very, very many examples of the slovenly governance and utterly unprofessional journalism in this country.
 

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Irish TDs would likely be unknown to the Gmail back office. They also tend to have their personal data available on Wiki and elsewhere.

Blair was notorious for eschewing the use of tech. He may have been very astute in that.
I thought I heard on the radio this morning that Kenny confirmed he used Gmail for official business.
 

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The username and password for the Prime Minister's personal email being hacked is a very serious breach as is the successful hacking of 6 other minister's private email accounts. This serious breach is tacked on as an afterthought to the rté story. Just another among very, very many examples of the slovenly governance and utterly unprofessional journalism in this country.
Indeed there are quite a few issues here

Flanagan is "surprised" ... the LinkedIn hack was 2012 ... many in the industry understood the severity quite some time back

By May 2016 even LinkedIn fully publicly confessed to the extent ... yet 6 months later ...Charlie Flannagan is surprised ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_LinkedIn_hack

Furthermore - the LinkedIn hack will enable onwards hacks of any re-shared passwords ... but even that is quite beside the point

There are many,many other cyber exploits out there (spear phishing etc) - and ... do you think the government even bothered to see that .gov.ie emails were encrypted in transit ? DO you think they even know what that means ?

Also ... do you think the likes of Three, O2 etc ... make realistic efforts against IMSI catchers etc ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI-catcher

Do you think Eir's PTSN and broadband network is secure ? Ditto the broadband networks of other operators

Not merely can communications be compromised ... but your smartphone (or even old GSM) establishes your location ... and that of others nearby ... patterns, patterns, patterns

And ... just who knows what about the professional dealings ..and personal lives of our:
Members of government
President
Senior public servants
Senior business leaders
Journalists / influencers

?

Every time I try to bring up these matters ... the Moditariat of politics.ie shuts me down ... using any means to hand

Look at the recent election in the US ... and see what the stakes are ... who beenfits from having all of this info ?

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The username and password for the Prime Minister's personal email being hacked is a very serious breach as is the successful hacking of 6 other minister's private email accounts. This serious breach is tacked on as an afterthought to the rté story. Just another among very, very many examples of the slovenly governance and utterly unprofessional journalism in this country.
bol*ox
 

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Only in Ireland the land of no consequences for anything unless you're poor, in which case you're evicted and/or buggered, would a hack into the acounts of the leader and six ministers receive this utterly irrelevant reply.

Flanagan is "surprised" ... the LinkedIn hack was 2012 ... many in the industry understood the severity quite some time back
Are you saying this happened in 2012 and we're only hearing about it now? A bit like the dead body that was found in a cupboard in a government minister's department in Kildare Street - omerta.
 

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Only in Ireland the land of no consequences for anything unless you're poor, in which case you're evicted and/or buggered, would a hack into the acounts of the leader and six ministers receive this utterly irrelevant reply.



Are you saying this happened in 2012 and we're only hearing about it now? A bit like the dead body that was found in a cupboard in a government minister's department in Kildare Street - omerta.
Irrelevant..... Ireland is irrelevant. Taoiseach and ALL of the ministers are irrelevant.

To see how irrelevant, just see the trouble the Brits are havin' trying to extract themselves from Europe.

It is a load of Bol*ox 'cos if THEY want into your account, THEY will get in, end. The whole IT industry is a load of Bo*lox with it.

Mostly, people who say OMG this is soooooo serious, We need systems in place to protect ourselves from THEM, (make sure this will never happen again, Bol*ox) are the biggest load of 'ol BO*LOX. The damage is done. Live with it AH. It was you and yours who caused it, kept it going, spiralling out of control, Bol*ox.

Like YOU give a fiddlers FU*CK about the poor.
 
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Irrelevant..... Ireland is irrelevant. Taoiseach and ALL of the ministers are irrelevant.

To see how irrelevant, just see the trouble the Brits are havin' trying to extract themselves from Europe.
You don't have to tell me we're a client state...it hasn't been remarked upon by anyone I think who joined the discussion about the Brits claiming the Donegal foreshores that according to the article posted from the local Donegal paper that the guards were apparently issued with instructions at some point on foot of these claims instructng them not to pursue any issues below the high waterline since they (this was coming from the top of the Irish government) 'didn't have jurisdiction'.
 

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Why Ireland is useful to the Kremlin

- Republicans keep the British tied up (both repuationally, and militarily)
- IFSC etc means it is a payments nexus - funny business, needs funny finance
- Silicon docks means it is a communications nexus : http://www.politics.ie/forum/defence/250895-enda-kenny-welcomes-russian-security-firm-dublin-50-jobs-promised.html
- People like Denis O'Brien, Pat Hickey, the Kinahans ... are major international players

Also due to the amount of Europeans who emmigrated to here - it is a melting pot of intrigue

The Moditariat, Commentariat etc ... are in for an unpleasant surprise ...

[video=youtube;d4H70U26HxM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4H70U26HxM[/video]

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It certainly looks like eir is getting some unwanted international attention.

Irish eyes are crying: Tens of thousands of broadband modems wide open to hijacking

"tens of thousand of customers with insecure modems"?
Forget near endpoint compromise

Is traffic encrypted throughout the network ? Pay particular attention to repeaters/ switches etc ... as to how old they might be ... etc

Regards native signal- say at data centres ...are they physically secure ? Do they do counter Tempest obfuscation ? Recall how cheap Tempest now is: Bruce Schneier : Practical TEMPEST Attack

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