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Enda Kenny to Replace Seanad With His Own Boys?


ger12

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The Independent reported over the weekend that Enda would like to replace the Seanad with a committee appointed by his good self to scrutinise legislation.

A "mini-Seanad with outside experts" whose members would be appointed by An Taoiseach. Apparently Labour TD's are not as enthused at this suggestion.

This committee, as proposed, would be part of the Houses of the Oireachtas, but would have its own designated staff, separate to the rest of the committees.

Chuckle, welcome chaps to FG's New Politics. What ya all think?

Labour revolt at plan to replace Seanad with 'Enda's buddies' - Independent.ie

The Old Woman started the first thread on this. If this too gets sent to the zoo perhaps a mod could merge? Or if the first thread is freed from the zoo, please merge this one with the first thread.
 

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A nervous forum looked towards Sync........like a prostrate gladiator on the arena floor....waiting to see if the Emperor's thumb turned up for survival, or down......to be zooed...(it's at this point the simile breaks down)
 

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A united revolt of Labour TDs and senators took place against what was scathingly dismissed as "Enda's bloody stupid idea'' at last week's parliamentary party meeting
Pretty much sums it up.
 

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Enda has no intention of getting rid if Seanad Éireann. He suggests abolishing it with something worse. No matter what happens Inda wins. Jobs for the boys no matter what the vote.
 

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Another thread on Enda Kenny from the resident P.ie spokesperson for the Green Party! Obsessed much! :lol:
 

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Hey O.P., how else would you suggest that a small body of experts might be selected or appointed? Do we need an election for everything is this country?

If you don't like what the Taoiseach is suggesting then simply vote NO to abolition.
 

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Hey O.P., how else would you suggest that a small body of experts might be selected or appointed? Do we need an election for everything is this country?

If you don't like what the Taoiseach is suggesting then simply vote NO to abolition.
The OP is looking for the return of Dan Boyle and John Gormley! Then we can be all saved! :roll:
 

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Doubt if it will be Enda picking this crew, he won't be Taoseach after next election
 

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Not even Bertie Ahern attempted something as brazen as this.

Enda hasn't got it in him. . . . In the same way he hasn't got it in him to sack Shatter or Reilly.

I'd say he's under pressure from various Senators (and the Labour Party) to keep the Senate entirely and now that he's committed himself to a referendum he has to try and come up with a solution so that he can have the best of both worlds.
 

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Enda has no intention of getting rid if Seanad Éireann. He suggests abolishing it with something worse. No matter what happens Inda wins. Jobs for the boys no matter what the vote.
I think he'd every intention of getting rid of the Seanad. And perhaps is a little concerned now that the people may not share his view.

I know I two years ago would have voted for it's abolition and have changed my mind viewing reform as a better option.
 

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Another thread on Enda Kenny from the resident P.ie spokesperson for the Green Party! Obsessed much! :lol:
He just keeps on giving TP. ;)
 

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FG Manifesto:

A Fine Gael Government will hold a referendum on CONSTITUTION DAY within 12 months of assuming office at which the people will be asked to approve the abolition of the Seanad and other changes to the articles of the constitution covering the institutions of the state – principally the Executive, the Dáil, the Presidency and the Judiciary.

Programme for Government (given the Shatter stuff, the last of these is (interesting):

Parliamentary reform issues

We will prioritise putting to the people by referendum a number of urgent parliamentary
reform issues:
• Abolition of the Seanad
• A referendum to amend the Constitution to reverse the effects of the Abbeylara
judgment to enable Oireachtas committees to carry out full investigations.
• A referendum to protect the right of citizens to communicate in confidence with
public representatives.
 
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FG Manifesto:

A Fine Gael Government will hold a referendum on CONSTITUTION DAY within 12 months of assuming office at which the people will be asked to approve the abolition of the Seanad and other changes to the articles of the constitution covering the institutions of the state – principally the Executive, the Dáil, the Presidency and the Judiciary.

Programme for Government (given the Shatter stuuf, the last of these is (interesting):

Parliamentary reform issues

We will prioritise putting to the people by referendum a number of urgent parliamentary
reform issues:
• Abolition of the Seanad
• A referendum to amend the Constitution to reverse the effects of the Abbeylara
judgment to enable Oireachtas committees to carry out full investigations.
• A referendum to protect the right of citizens to communicate in confidence with
public representatives.
27 months later. . . . Nothing.
 

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Hey O.P., how else would you suggest that a small body of experts might be selected or appointed? Do we need an election for everything is this country?

If you don't like what the Taoiseach is suggesting then simply vote NO to abolition.
Do you "like" the idea of a body of unelected politically appointed "experts" touching up legislation? Whose "experts" would end up being appointed? We've seen this Government brazenly appoint many of their "friends" to State boards and the Judiciary over the last two years. Why would they behave any differently now?
 

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Another day, another troll anti-FG thread by Greena Fail supporter Ger.. yawn
 

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27 months later. . . . Nothing.
Sure what's the rush? FG also said this:

Initiation of legislation and guillotines. We will give committees the power to introduce legislation, while a new 10 Minute Rule will allow backbench TDs to introduce their own Bills. We will also tackle the huge over-use of guillotines to ram through non-emergency legislation.
Fine Gael believes there must also be a real shift in power from the state to the citizen.
 

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FG Manifesto:

A Fine Gael Government will hold a referendum on CONSTITUTION DAY within 12 months of assuming office at which the people will be asked to approve the abolition of the Seanad and other changes to the articles of the constitution covering the institutions of the state – principally the Executive, the Dáil, the Presidency and the Judiciary.

Programme for Government (given the Shatter stuff, the last of these is (interesting):

Parliamentary reform issues

We will prioritise putting to the people by referendum a number of urgent parliamentary
reform issues:
• Abolition of the Seanad
• A referendum to amend the Constitution to reverse the effects of the Abbeylara
judgment to enable Oireachtas committees to carry out full investigations.
• A referendum to protect the right of citizens to communicate in confidence with
public representatives.
Interesting document is that New Politics.

http://www.simoncoveney.ie/arc/media/pdf/NewPolitics.pdf

"Fine Gael believes that a transparent system of political funding is essential if confidence is to be restored in the political system. We will:
• Publish annual audited accounts for the Fine Gael party on the Web from 2010"
 
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