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TheWolf

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Whether he did or didn't buy property isn't really the issue - he just made it impossible for almost everyone else to buy property unless you're a REIT or a "charity" vulture fund. That his successor Varadkar doesn't even know what an "affordable" home should cost just shows how opposed FG are to the idea of little people ever owning their own home again.
Varadkar is just another blueshirt gimp without a clue about the real world.
We seen it a couple of weeks ago when Adams mentioned that a €30 bottle of wine mightn't seem much to government ministers which was then followed by mocking and sneering from the blueshirt fanboys in the Dail and on here.

Doherty then produced a receipt from Varadkar's office showing that was exactly what the gimp was spending (of our money) on wine to 'entertain' his new Canadian boyfriend with.

Blueshirst, in general, are a condescending and sneering gang of corrupt people.

Disgusting, as someone once said.

Still, if they can screech 'Look over there, it's SF/IRA' often enough, they feel like a success.
 

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SF IRA would have just given our illustrious visitors Buckfast.

Keep up the good work FG.

Even the shinner boats will rise eventually.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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SF IRA would have just given our illustrious visitors Buckfast.

Keep up the good work FG.

Even the shinner boats will rise eventually.
By good work do you mean unaffordable homes, 25% of the population on hospital waiting lists, 3000 homeless children, a crippling tax burden on modest earners, a creaking water system and a well paid, cosseted, parliament that doesn't seem to have a clue how to fix it?
 

flavirostris

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SF IRA would have just given our illustrious visitors Buckfast.

Keep up the good work FG.

Even the shinner boats will rise eventually.
Can you imagine SF in power after 2011? We'd have a refugee crisis worse than Syria. You'd see appeals from Unicef to help the poor children in Ireland.
 

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How many with private healthcare are on waiting lists as a matter of interest?

I`ve always said that we need to do away with private healthcare.

Crippling tax burden. Really. Sure dont we read every day that its too low. Nevin and Social Justice.

Water system in Dublin is perfect :) When are we getting those refunds.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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How many with private healthcare are on waiting lists as a matter of interest?

I`ve always said that we need to do away with private healthcare.

Crippling tax burden. Really. Sure dont we read every day that its too low. Nevin and Social Justice.

Water system in Dublin is perfect :) When are we getting those refunds.
Sometimes even the word douche isn't enough.
 

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his legacy is of being a wishy washy bollox who told fairy stories about pints
 

Disillusioned democrat

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How many with private healthcare are on waiting lists as a matter of interest?

I`ve always said that we need to do away with private healthcare.

Crippling tax burden. Really. Sure dont we read every day that its too low. Nevin and Social Justice.

Water system in Dublin is perfect :) When are we getting those refunds.
On Irish tax, anyone earning over €34.5k pays 49% on everything they earn over that relatively low level - a tiny fraction of the threshold in other EU countries.
 

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When all the doomsters and shinners are against Enda you actually realise that he must have done a fantastic job.

Enjoy your retirement Enda and whatever opportunities come your way.
 

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No I couldn`t imagine them "in power" ever in The Republic of Ireland.
If FG keep to the course Kenny set them on it mightn't be long before you won't have to "imagine".

That'll be some legacy - Kenny, the man who made SF electable for the first time in 100 years of independence.
 

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On Irish tax, anyone earning over €34.5k pays 49% on everything they earn over that relatively low level - a tiny fraction of the threshold in other EU countries.
Jaysus we all know this. It was even worse previously. FG the party of reducing taxes :)

Didn`t SF IRA give out that USC was reduced.

You feckin douche.
 

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If FG keep to the course Kenny set them on it mightn't be long before you won't have to "imagine".

That'll be some legacy - Kenny, the man who made SF electable for the first time in 100 years of independence.
Dream on sucker.

You still voting IMFF next time around :lol:
 

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It's six months since Kenny resigned as Taoiseach - a blink of en eye in historical terms, but long enough to start looking at his terms as Taoiseach in the rear view mirror.

When you're living through specific times we often forget that Taoisigh probably get more attention after they're gone as people get time to consider and judge their time in office.

For me Enda Kenny will always represent the wasted opportunity and the confirmation, as if required, that politicians are a venal breed that represent "their" people not "the" people.

FG's victory in 2011 was a vote against FF as opposed to a groundswell of support for Kenny, but he made many of the right noises early on in his initial term, but in IMHO just reverted to type after a few months in government. From "Paddy wants to know" to burying the Moriarty report in 3 months.

Kenny had the numbers and mandate to make significant positive reforms but instead just put the economy on ice for the same elite who had destroyed it in the first place and managed to thwart any accountability by nobbling any real investigations into the causes of the crash.
Few points - the success in 2011 is as you say more to do with the implosion in FF vote. Some of that went to FG , some to Labour, some to SF.
He thus had the advantage of a very string government in numbers terms.

Because of this his government was able to manage the economy and that was the single most important task that they faced.

What was taken over in March 2011, and was getting worse at the time was a complete basket case.

In economic terms in January 2011 our debt to gdp hit 120% (and if you think GDP is bull in Ireland's case then the actual figures would have been much higher!).
The government deficit for 2010 was 32% of GDP (and again if you think GDP is inflated then the actual figure was worse).

The budget for 2010, which the previous gov introduced, but fell on his gov from the March was a 6b austerity budet, with projections for 3.6b, 3.1b and 3.1b for the next 3 budgets.

The number of people working had fallen to by 280k to 1.84m from , with unemployment at 14.4% and far more people emigrating that coming in.

And of course we were in a bailout, cause the markets had decided we were a basket case and would not repay our debt.

To go from those economic starting points to where we are now is remarkable. I think that will be his legacy, or more to the point the legacy of the government he led.
 

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Unless you are a doomster and/or a SF IRA shill that is :)

Did he get everything right ? Absolutely not. Who does ? Obama, Merkel.....
 

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If FG keep to the course Kenny set them on it mightn't be long before you won't have to "imagine".

That'll be some legacy - Kenny, the man who made SF electable for the first time in 100 years of independence.

Ends will be remembered as a clown to some, a fool to others and a Mayo ejit to the rest of us.
 

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Steadied the ship when we were headed towards the rocks in 2011/12. I'll give him some credit for that.

But missed the chance for fundamental reform of Irish government, public service and society. Kenny (perhaps due to marriage to a former Haughey aide), mastered the art of keeping friends close but enemies closer. So it was about maintaining the status quo, ensuring nobody in receipt of public monies lost out too much, and the delivery of services wasn't reformed in any meaningful way.

Added to this no real effort to take on vested property, legal and business interests.

Terrible waste of a good crisis. Operated the system he found well, but never addressed any of the flaws within.
 

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Unless you are a doomster and/or a SF IRA shill that is :)

Did he get everything right ? Absolutely not. Who does ? Obama, Merkel.....
pleas inform the masses what pinnochio got right, like leo he was another zepplin, full of hot hair and no substance, the cromwellians must be growing these false news advocates on trees, they seem to be able to produce them out of thin hot air
 

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Rank him against the other Taoisigh we've had (shouldn't be too hard, there's not that many).

From worst to best:
  1. Ahern
  2. Cowen
  3. Haughey
  4. Lynch
  5. Liam Cosgrave
  6. Fitzgerald
  7. De Valera
  8. Costello
  9. Lemass
  10. WT Cosgrave

So OP; where does he go?
 

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