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EP voting now on 20 weeks maternity leave on full pay




cyberianpan

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Women should get a sick cert for medical maternity leave (e.g. order 10 days)

After that leave should be up to either parent

Also I don't think that leave should be paid : why should an employer pay for their employee's breeding ? That discriminates against people who have no, or few children

cYp
 

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You do want to have some jobs left in the EU? It will just make employing people in the EU more expensive than elsewhere.
Not only that, it makes employing WOMEN (or child bearing years) less attractive.

Indeed, a ridiculous move. Give women 13 weeks paid leave with the option of extending it by a further 13 weeks.
 
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So will this apply to the SMB sector?

Employers in small companies discriminate against women of child rearing age at the hiring stage. This will give them further incentive to continue the practice if applied.

If you were the employer of 1 or 2 people in this testing economic environment and you were hiring someone, you may think twice about hiring a women.
 

Clanrickard

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No only that, it makes employing WOMEN (or child bearing years) less attractive.

Indeed, ridiculous move. Give women 13 weeks paid leave with the option of extending it by a further 13 weeks.
It's the EP what do you expect?
 

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Women should get a sick cert for medical maternity leave (e.g. order 10 days)

After that leave should be up to either parent

Also I don't think that leave should be paid : why should an employer pay for their employee's breeding ? That discriminates against people who have no, or few children

cYp
Quite right. And lets bring back slavery while we're at it. It made great economic sense!
 

wexfordman

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So will this apply to the SMB sector?

Employers in small companies discriminate against women of child rearing age at the hiring stage. This will give them further incentive to continue the practice if applied.

If you were the employer of 1 or 2 people in this testing economic environment and you were hiring someone, you may think twice about hiring a women.
Make it applicable to either parent, thT would remove the bias!!
 

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More EU dictatorship. Instead of thinking about nudging to a sound society were one income per household suffices, giving women the choice to chase careers or become full time mothers, which is their right, they insist of having both partners slaving away to feed their feudal buddies in the ECB through servicing outrageous leverage multiples of their income and force the issue of maternity leave down people's throats.

Guess what is going be the caue and effect of this? Employers will be less keen to employ young women and if they do they will compensate the losses of this ruling by reduing their fair valued wage, increasing the gender pay gap.

But hey thats not a hip thing to say at a middle class liberal hypocrite's Guardian reading "progressive" dinner party.
 

setanta

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Excellent news form the European Parliament. Why am I not surprised that some posters would prefer to shackle women to the home and get them out of the workforce. "It'll cost too much. It'll costs jobs. It'll dissuade bosses from hiring women." These excuses were all trotted out when maternity leave was first ever proposed and for every extension of leave entitlements since. The scare stories never have been fulfilled and millions of mothers, fathers and most importantly children are the happier and better off for it.

It's over to the European Council now to step up to the plate.
 

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Dear God, the lunatics HAVE taken over the asylum. That's probably just added several million to EU dole queues.

On the bright side as a man who's unlikely to have childre, it's made a minor help in my job prospects.

this is a minimum standard.

Most EU countries have more

Denmark - 52 weeks on full pay - dont tell me that the Danish economy is not competitive

for info half of all women in Ireland on maternity leave are paid fully already - this proposal simply allows us to catch the cowboy employers
 

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Excellent news form the European Parliament. Why am I not surprised that some posters would prefer to shackle women to the home and get them out of the workforce. "It'll cost too much. It'll costs jobs. It'll dissuade bosses from hiring women." These excuses were all trotted out when maternity leave was first ever proposed and for every extension of leave entitlements since. The scare stories never have been fulfilled and millions of mothers, fathers and most importantly children are the happier and better off for it.

It's over to the European Council now to step up to the plate.
Its their right to choose to work or to be a full time mother. One income per household should suffice.
 

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Does this proposal mean the state pays in full for 20 weeks or the employer pays?

Many employers already make up the difference between the state maternity benefits and the salary the worker received.

Clearly many small employers cannot afford to pay for 20 weeks work that isn't done and it will be a barrier to employment for younger women.
 

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Good news, bad news I suppose.

Good news for existing women in the workplace, whose privileged position over male colleagues will continue.

Bad news for any women going for a job interview tomorrow up against a man.
 

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Spotty has long said it, and he will say it again.

The main problem with the EU is that it has a real lack of brains.

What is Spotty going to look at in the office every day now that his boss will basically refuse to hire young women? This is a disaster.
 
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Good news. The fundamental factor here isn't the employer, or indeed the mothers career prospects, it is about providing a child with full time parent for its first few months.

Personally though I'd go for a compulsory 52 weeks at 50% pay, with either parent entitled to take it. Those that don't want to stay at home? Tough sh!t, do what's best for your kid.
 

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this is a minimum standard.

Most EU countries have more.
No they, don't the vast majority of EU countries have less. The exception is the Baltic ring.

Denmark - 52 weeks on full pay - dont tell me that the Danish economy is not competitive.
It isn't 52 weeks PAID leave. Parents can take at total of 52 weeks (50 for the mother, 2 for the father), but it is up to local agreements as to what it paid leave.

for info half of all women in Ireland on maternity leave are paid fully already - this proposal simply allows us to catch the cowboy employers
How many of those are in the public service, where competitiveness is not an issue? Right niow wee are losing jobs to countries like China and Malaysia. THESE are the countries that we should be banchmarking ourselves against.
 

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