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ESB Engineer: Ireland should go Nuclear



silverharp

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its the obvious solution but being Irish means waiting until everyone else does it and then waiting a 100 years or so
 

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If they are serious about carbon reduction it may be a large part of the solution.

I saw an article recently that renewable energy has failed in Germany
 

silverharp

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If they are serious about carbon reduction it may be a large part of the solution.

I saw an article recently that renewable energy has failed in Germany
twice the cost of the French and they have to buy electricity from the French , and I assume a lot of French reactors are older tech
 

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Ireland nearly went nuclear in 1974. Dessie O Malley was the Minister. He wanted to build a nuclear power station in Carnsore point in Wexford. There was a lot of debate at the time.
The nuclear power plant was opposed by the likes of Christy Moore and - Chris de Burgh (two fairly opposite views!)
 

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The Green Movement would have a Meltdown! 🥦

Its not really a viable proposition as NOWHERE in Ireland would want this in their backyard

Also the costs involved of commissioning one of these Things is astronomical

- and Man Made Climate Change is essentially a load of Hot Air....
 

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The Idea of "Paddy" running a nuclear power plant is chilling.
Try this scenario.... Ogle union types in a position to ransom.
Look at the history.
 

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A former ESB engineer says we're ignoring carbon-free energy that could save us from climate change.

Should Ireland start building a nuclear power stations?

It would seem the obvious way to go. Ireland already uses Nuclear energy generated in the UK anyway, via the interconnector.
 

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A former ESB engineer says we're ignoring carbon-free energy that could save us from climate change.

Should Ireland start building a nuclear power stations?

Yes. Emphatically yes.
 

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I calculate that the money lost from the National Pension Reserve Fund as part of the bailout of private banks in the last decade or so would have given us energy independence by now as we could have had around 6 nuclear power stations for the money thrown to bondholders alone.

EDF were flogging reactors, delivered and installed, for about 3.5billion a pop at the time.

Really starts to put the bank bailout into perspective though in terms of cost, which is far more than the number of currency units involved.

The first political opinion I can remember expressing in my life was against the proposal to site a nuclear power plant at Carnsore in Wexford.

At the time there were concerns as well about waste coolant leaking from Windscale, which was re-branded as Sellafield and will eventually probably end up as 'Fluffy-Lovely Ville' if various branding agencies had their way.

It is a conundrum to have a country so scenic that there is always a valid objection to a small, little nuclear power plant here and there.

In terms of existential risk assessment I suggest that the decision to be dependent on fossil fuels and what we can buy in from the international grid may turn out to be a very costly strategic decision in the end.
 
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Ireniall

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For Heaven's sake, we've gone through enough meltdowns without adding the absolute certainty of a nuclear one!
Pat Kenny regularly discusses this subject and seems to be very supportive of the new type of reactor referred to as 'molten salt'. Apparently they are efficient in even very small sizes and cannot melt down under any circumstances. Presumably they are capable of having less serious localised accidents though. The lifespan is twenty-five years at the end of which waste material which would fill the average sitting room has been produced. They sound like a game-changer and hydrogen-the only real answer to the renewable problems , is proving very difficult to improve
 

Baron von Biffo

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A former ESB engineer says we're ignoring carbon-free energy that could save us from climate change.

Should Ireland start building a nuclear power stations?

In principle it's a great idea but this is Ireland. We have an 'it'll do' attitude about most things and no history or culture of enforcement of standards and regulations.

Not good characteristics to apply to nuclear reactors.
 

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Who will build it?
Russia is not an option, Chinese are only learning
AREVA had a break for 10 years, as result new reactor in Olkiluoto missed all possible and impossible deadlines. 1400 subcontractors, Polish company had to rebuild case for reactor two times, etc, etc
The same for Westinghouse Electric, who had long break and lost all expertiseю Haiyang power plant with AP1000 also lost all possible deadlines, pump recently failed, Chinese even started to look on Areva as an alternative to Westinghouse in future projects
 

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Who will build it?
Russia is not an option, Chinese are only learning
AREVA had a break for 10 years, as result new reactor in Olkiluoto missed all possible and impossible deadlines. 1400 subcontractors, Polish company had to rebuild case for reactor two times, etc, etc
The same for Westinghouse Electric, who had long break and lost all expertiseю Haiyang power plant with AP1000 also lost all possible deadlines, pump recently failed, Chinese even started to look on Areva as an alternative to Westinghouse in future projects
Nah, no one wants Russian shit after Chernobyl.
 

bormotello

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Nah, no one wants Russian shit after Chernobyl.
I afraid to disappoint you by fact that Russia holds 67% of new reactors market
At least Putin managed to save expertise and staff while US/France/Japan lost it
 


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