EU demands right to censor internet

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A few years ago the EU passed a 'right to be forgotten' law which stated that people could have search results from their past that link to them removed by Google and other search engines. At the time it was understood by many that this would reply only to people in Europe ie people in France use google.fr which would erase the results from their returns. At the time the ruling was hugely controversial in itself, people arguing it amounted to State Censorship of the internet and could be used in countless unscrupulous ways... and has since been passed to Japan (though a High Court ruling recently (and heroically) struck it down (funny how these ideas spread so quickly around the world isn't it? Almost as though they are agreed secretly between political leaders from many countries)).

However it seems even that wasn't enough, the French demand that Google amend ALL their search engines everywhere in the world to reflect the EU ruling, so that if you are American the EU ruling will control your search results. Thus providing a neat way of bypassing say the great First Amendment in the US. Google to it's credit, is fighting them in the Courts over this unreasonable demand. The ramifications are chilling if the EU win, imagine a world where search engines are reduced to the lowest common denominator only allowing results that every country in the world doesn't mind you seeing. Considering censorship regimes in countries from Russia to Vietnam this would be the end of the internet as we know it. Just the EU's war on freedom of expression is bad enough but the arrogance of them to seek to dictate to everyone else on Earth is breathtaking.

With people like the ones behind these decisions, is it any wonder euroscepticism is so high?

https://euobserver.com/digital/129814
 


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A few years ago the EU passed a 'right to be forgotten' law which stated that people could have search results from their past that link to them removed by Google and other search engines. At the time it was understood by many that this would reply only to people in Europe ie people in France use google.fr which would erase the results from their returns. At the time the ruling was hugely controversial in itself, people arguing it amounted to State Censorship of the internet and could be used in countless unscrupulous ways... and has since been passed to Japan (though a High Court ruling recently (and heroically) struck it down (funny how these ideas spread so quickly around the world isn't it? Almost as though they are agreed secretly between political leaders from many countries)).

However it seems even that wasn't enough, the French demand that Google amend ALL their search engines everywhere in the world to reflect the EU ruling, so that if you are American the EU ruling will control your search results. Thus providing a neat way of bypassing say the great First Amendment in the US. Google to it's credit, is fighting them in the Courts over this unreasonable demand. The ramifications are chilling if the EU win, imagine a world where search engines are reduced to the lowest common denominator only allowing results that every country in the world doesn't mind you seeing. Considering censorship regimes in countries from Russia to Vietnam this would be the end of the internet as we know it. Just the EU's war on freedom of expression is bad enough but the arrogance of them to seek to dictate to everyone else on Earth is breathtaking.

With people like the ones behind these decisions, is it any wonder euroscepticism is so high?

https://euobserver.com/digital/129814
an article from 2015 about the state of the internet, really?
 

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articel from 2015 about the state of the internet, really?
Google is still fighting the ruling in the Courts. Is that current day enough for you? Or was that just some kind of Eurodrone brain spasm from you which i should excuse?
 

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This is so funny. Your own link doesnt support your argument that the EU is attempting to censor the world wide web.

Google is resisting data protection laws here. The very thing that Snowden-lovers like you should consider important.

And doing it solely for profit. Thats exactly why posters like you are "useful idiots" :D
 

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A few years ago the EU passed a 'right to be forgotten' law which stated that people could have search results from their past that link to them removed by Google and other search engines. At the time it was understood by many that this would reply only to people in Europe ie people in France use google.fr which would erase the results from their returns. At the time the ruling was hugely controversial in itself, people arguing it amounted to State Censorship of the internet and could be used in countless unscrupulous ways... and has since been passed to Japan (though a High Court ruling recently (and heroically) struck it down (funny how these ideas spread so quickly around the world isn't it? Almost as though they are agreed secretly between political leaders from many countries)).

However it seems even that wasn't enough, the French demand that Google amend ALL their search engines everywhere in the world to reflect the EU ruling, so that if you are American the EU ruling will control your search results. Thus providing a neat way of bypassing say the great First Amendment in the US. Google to it's credit, is fighting them in the Courts over this unreasonable demand. The ramifications are chilling if the EU win, imagine a world where search engines are reduced to the lowest common denominator only allowing results that every country in the world doesn't mind you seeing. Considering censorship regimes in countries from Russia to Vietnam this would be the end of the internet as we know it. Just the EU's war on freedom of expression is bad enough but the arrogance of them to seek to dictate to everyone else on Earth is breathtaking.

With people like the ones behind these decisions, is it any wonder euroscepticism is so high?

https://euobserver.com/digital/129814
Nothing more exciting from the Kremlin's troll factory this evening ?
 

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This is so funny. Your own link doesnt support your argument that the EU is attempting to censor the world wide web.

Google is resisting data protection laws here. The very thing that Snowden-lovers like you should consider important.

And doing it solely for profit. Thats exactly why posters like you are "useful idiots" :D
You guys didn't even read the article, am i arguing with toddlers? Run along and troll me on another thread please.

If the French attempt to impose EU law on Google everywhere succeeds then they will have censored the internet globally, got it now?
 

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I believe they want to weigh the Internet in kilos rather than pounds as well.



The bastards

So let's say a guy called Karloff had an ex that made a sex video of him and posted it on the Internet as revenge. Not cool but tough titty is your view?
 

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Nothing more exciting from the Kremlin's troll factory this evening ?
Why don't you post links to Youtube songs like the rest of the numpties when they detect a thread they want to swamp, swamp elsewhere - this is the last time i will dignify this trolling with a reply.
 

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Why don't you post links to Youtube songs like the rest of the numpties when they detect a thread they want to swamp, swamp elsewhere - this is the last time i will dignify this trolling with a reply.
Tell us something about we don't know already.
Hey- how is internet in Putinworld ? I suppose it is all free and secret ?!
 

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Oh not another one.

They are crap arent they?

The Guardian used to get a much better class of Russian troll.
In fairness this pokey little site doesn't even get the B team.
We get the equivalent of the junior B bench warmers.
 

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In fairness this pokey little site doesn't even get the B team.
We get the equivalent of the junior B bench warmers.
Yup, its like what do we do with the ones that are going to wash out? 8 roubles an hour to post spam on Pie. :D
 

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In fairness this pokey little site doesn't even get the B team.
We get the equivalent of the junior B bench warmers.
You have to give them at least the chance to get some experience...
 

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Oh but wait a moment....
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/30/12707590/eu-net-neutrality-rules-final-guidelines-berec

Surely the big bad EU aren't actually protecting net neutrality !
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Net neutrality advocates welcomed BEREC's guidelines as a milestone for the open internet in Europe. "Europe is now a global standard-setter in the defense of the open, competitive and neutral internet," Joe McNamee, executive director of the Brussels-based organization European Digital Rights (EDRi), said in a statement. Net neutrality activist Thomas Lohninger, of SaveTheInternet.eu, described the tougher guidelines as "a triumph for the European digital rights movement."
Some lad called Tim Berners-Lee even backed them
world wide web creator Sir Tim Berners-Lee, together with law professors Barbara van Schewick and Larry Lessig, published an open letter calling on European regulators to "save the open internet."
 

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Kremlin troll goes to bat for Google the Arch-Evil which doesnt want to comply with the EU Data Protection Directive.

Such is Putin-world.
 

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Wait, they have the Internet on computers now. This truly is a golden age we live in.
 

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and has since been passed to Japan (though a High Court ruling recently (and heroically) struck it down (funny how these ideas spread so quickly around the world isn't it? Almost as though they are agreed secretly between political leaders from many countries)).
And we may add Canada to that list... (ever the servant of global neoliberal concensuses) which like France is ALSO trying to control the internet globally (read that again for the slow learners G L O B A L L Y).

Did a Canadian court just establish a new right to be forgotten online? - The Globe and Mail

While the Canadian courts have grappled with the question of removing links from the Google search database (a key case on the issue is awaiting a decision from the Supreme Court of Canada), there has been little sense that Canada would establish its own right to be forgotten. That may have changed last week as the Federal Court of Canada issued a landmark ruling that paves the way for a Canadian version of the right to be forgotten that would allow courts to issue orders with the removal of Google search results on a global basis very much in mind.

The case – A.T. v. Globe24H.com – involves a Romanian-based website that downloaded thousands of Canadian judicial and tribunal decisions, posted them online and demanded fees for their swift removal. The decisions are all public documents and available through the Canadian Legal Information Institute (CanLII), a website maintained by the legal profession in support of open access to legal materials (I am a former board member).

Since most decisions on CanLII are not indexed in Google, their availability is not widely known and their content does not typically come up in search queries. Globe24H.com opened its database to Google, however, leading to the discovery of the decisions for many for the first time. When users contacted the site, they were told that a “free” removal service could take six months or more. If they paid for the removal, the content was quickly deleted without issue.

The Privacy Commissioner of Canada received dozens of complaints about the website and issued a report in June, 2015, that it violated Canadian privacy law. The case moved to the federal court, which agreed with the Privacy Commissioner’s privacy findings, but was left with the question of whether it could do anything about it.
Imagine if Erdogan of Turkey got in the act (why would they deny him if they accept Canada) could be dictating what you do or do not see when you type a search request in Google (for me ANYONE doing so even the self righteous authoritarian bureauocracy of the EU is unacceptable in principle and in practice). Absolutely dreadful for any kind of dissent as well which has historically relied on ex pats who can exchange information freely in other countries about what is going on at home.
 

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Oh not another one.

They are crap arent they?

The Guardian used to get a much better class of Russian troll.
No wonder you are trolling this article in favour of right to be forgotten, somewhere in the back of your mind the person behind you knows one day you will want this persona TGOTN to be forgotten utterly, blasted off into deep space with no way back unless they discover how to open wormholes.

As for Olli and the others there is less hope i'm afraid. Their personas are the best thing they have ever done.
 


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