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EU Elections 2019 - poll results



locke

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The Greens got 5.7% in the European elections in Ireland nationally.
The Greens got 17.5% in the European elections
No one, not even the biggest headbangers on this site can claim that that is anything other than a stunningly good result for them

This endless shite on this site about "Pravda/RTE" libby conspiracy BS is tiresome and inaccurate
17.5% is wrong as that is just the Dublin figure. Other Euro constituencies need to be taken into account

5.7% is the local election total. However, this needs to be seen in the context of almost half of electors not having a Green candidate to vote for (i.e. They got 10+% in the LEAs where they were standing). Every voter in the Euros had the possibility of voting Green.
 

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Noone is seriously suggesting they will do as well as the exit poll was suggesting.

They have had a stunning wekend, if they
17.5% is wrong as that is just the Dublin figure. Other Euro constituencies need to be taken into account

5.7% is the local election total. However, this needs to be seen in the context of almost half of electors not having a Green candidate to vote for (i.e. They got 10+% in the LEAs where they were standing). Every voter in the Euros had the possibility of voting Green.

Yes the 17.5 is Dublin
I tried too (in vain) to explain that the 5.7% in locals would vastly under value their national vote based on the absence of candidates and therefore the Euro Elections where every person who voted had an opportunity to vote for Green, is infinitely more accuare of how they fared nationally.

I'd expect once all three first counts are in Greens will still be over 12% nationally, that, whatever you slice it, is a stunning result
 
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atkin8

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They have had a stunning wekend, if they



Yes the 17.5 is Dublin
I tried too (in vain) to explain that the 5.7% in locals would vastly under value their national vote based on the absence of candidates and therefore the Euro Elections where every person who voted had an opportunity to vote for Green, is infinitely more accuare of how they fared nationally.

I'd expect once all three first counts are in Greens will still be over 12% nationally, that, whatever you slice it, is a stunning result
I cannot wait to pay more carbon tax for the retrofit of public housing to make them more energy efficient at a cost of 50 billion as is stated in their manifesto .
 

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Watching RTE coverage. They really seem pissed off with Casey making fools of them. Tommie Unionist giving the view on NI.
 

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Watching RTE coverage. They really seem pissed off with Casey making fools of them. Tommie Unionist giving the view on NI.
Making fools of them by not getting elected?

They gave him a profile via Dragons Den and he couldn't get elected.

This election has been a very bad one for brand Casey. For somebody who got 22% in a presidential poll it hasn't gone well at all. I even doubt if he could get elected to the Dail at this rate.
 
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RasherHash

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The Greens got 17.5% in the European elections
No one, not even the biggest headbangers on this site can claim that that is anything other than a stunningly good result for them

This endless shite on this site about "Pravda/RTE" libby conspiracy BS is tiresome and inaccurate
It is true to say the Green's had major publicity from the XR nonsense that was encouraged by the establishment to close down London. Endless unchallenged propaganda that was on the news and front page for weeks.

And then a 'stunning' Green victory :rolleyes:
 

APettigrew92

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Looks like the fallout is starting:
Traditional EU politics is undergoing an upheaval. The rise of the Greens and the Far Right is as much a rejection of traditional politics as it is an endorsement of environmental/conservative agendas.

Merkel has ruled uncontested for almost two decades yet the CDU, similar to FG/FF, has sought to maintain loyalty from older voters at the expense of neglecting the younger demographics. The bell begins to toll.

And then a 'stunning' Green victory :rolleyes:
The Greens are all types of naive. They'll never be big enough alone to attract voters in numbers required for non-coalition ruling and their platform is usually anti-corporate which does away with their base principles.

Their manifesto seems to favour people cycling and walking yet outside of South County Dublin, this is not a possibility.

Luckily they'll increase taxes on petrol and diesel and most likely either increase tax on or outright ban older models and diesel cars. Taking a good bludgeon to the working classes.

Environmental policies are of course important but you need only look to France when it comes to mindless policy.

Green policies - while just for the climate - almost always hurt those with the least to gain. That's where the Yellow Vests came from.

Mainstream parties will happily adopt Green policies. They won't adopt closed borders, immigrant quotas or neo-conservative values.

Greens will wane as they always do. FN won outright in France. The Liga and Five Star lads won outright in Italy. Europe won't be saved by regressive environmental policies.
 

ireallyshouldknowbetter

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Making fools of them by not getting elected?

They gave him a profile via Dragons Den and he couldn't get elected.

This election has been a very bad one for brand Casey. For somebody who got 22% in a presidential poll it hasn't gone well at all. I even doubt if he could get elected to the Dail at this rate.
He's 1/4 with Paddy Power to win a seat at the next GE for what it's worth.
 

Baron von Biffo

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I was looking to check something on Matt Carty's web site a moment ago only to be greeted by this message:-

"The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. "

To be fair, it's hard to pay for a lot of bandwidth when you're only on the AIW. :(
 

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Traditional EU politics is undergoing an upheaval. The rise of the Greens and the Far Right is as much a rejection of traditional politics as it is an endorsement of environmental/conservative agendas.

Merkel has ruled uncontested for almost two decades yet the CDU, similar to FG/FF, has sought to maintain loyalty from older voters at the expense of neglecting the younger demographics. The bell begins to toll.



The Greens are all types of naive. They'll never be big enough alone to attract voters in numbers required for non-coalition ruling and their platform is usually anti-corporate which does away with their base principles.

Their manifesto seems to favour people cycling and walking yet outside of South County Dublin, this is not a possibility.

Luckily they'll increase taxes on petrol and diesel and most likely either increase tax on or outright ban older models and diesel cars. Taking a good bludgeon to the working classes.

Environmental policies are of course important but you need only look to France when it comes to mindless policy.

Green policies - while just for the climate - almost always hurt those with the least to gain. That's where the Yellow Vests came from.

Mainstream parties will happily adopt Green policies. They won't adopt closed borders, immigrant quotas or neo-conservative values.

Greens will wane as they always do. FN won outright in France. The Liga and Five Star lads won outright in Italy. Europe won't be saved by regressive environmental policies.
So lets keep burning fossil fuels and to hell with the planet. Lets keep lining the pockets of mad gulf sheikhs and thugs like Putin. And to hell with air quality. Rightio.
 

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A just elected Fine Gael Councillor as ejected himself out of the party with claims of bullying- Donegal Councillor Frank McBreaty claims he was hounded out of Fine Gael-
 

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ireallyshouldknowbetter

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Fair play, that voter. He may not have gotten his first choice, or even his second, third or fourteenth choice, but by God, those b@stards in 16th and 17th preference weren't getting their grubby hands on his vote.
 


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