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EU no deal plans - whats going to happen?

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Mickeymac

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The Scum Fein moderator.. yes. I have to be careful. He/she infracts people for beating them in an argument.


Brexit and its consequences appears to be your favoured subject, so, how come the doctor needs to step into the ring to stop you getting badly beaten in all your Brexit, Backstop, WA discussions?:smile:
 


Dr Pat

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What will happen? Could it be that Brexit will be delayed and delayed until the electorate are exhausted by it and then at most a watered down version will be implemented? And will it be called respecting the wishes of the electorate, lol!
 

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What will happen? Could it be that Brexit will be delayed and delayed until the electorate are exhausted by it and then at most a watered down version will be implemented? And will it be called respecting the wishes of the electorate, lol!


It's the uncertainty of it all which makes it so topical, forums like these make it entertaining when you read all of the craicpot ideas from British government ministers, their proxies and contributors on this forum like yourself.:smile:
 

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You have as much interest in Irish unity than I have in knitting - zero.
Don't bother responding to flav's increasingly unhinged ravings. The guy is seriously unwell, and hasn't been living in reality for a good few years now. And the condition appears to be getting worse over time. His posts are just gibberish these days. Kindest thing to do is quietly ignore the lunatic mumbling in the corner, engaging only makes their condition worse.
 

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What recedite and his ilk want is for Ireland to become a British proxy/vassal state at the EU table and persuade Juncker and co to redesign the WA to Britain's liking.
What's interesting though is how unpopular this position really is. Even lots of traditionally FG anglophile/westbritish and anti-republican type politicians and media commentators, the kind of people you might have expected to be gurning and whinging about Ireland being all nassty and trickssy to our bestest pals ever in Britain, have kept their traps shut and rowed foursquare in behind the unified national strategy.

Which only exposes recedite, flav and the others for the tiny hysterical minority of unhinged lunatics they actually are....and always have been.

Hysterical WestBrit republican-bashing might have been good for the old media career, but as soon as it conflicts with actual Irish national interests it is quietly shelved. Which shows just how sincere most of those people were in their routine fulminations in the first place.

Ah the cynicism of media/politics. Morons like recedite flav and Dame will got to their graves not understanding at all how much they were played for fools by opportunist careerists.

They might as well be throwing buns at the Moon.
:roflmao:

Great line, I may steal that one for use in real life
 
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Lumpy Talbot

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I predict that the most obvious thing that will happen around Brexit, hard or not, will be that there will be a blip in electricity usage across the UK as kettle switches are clicked on.

Other than that I'd say large demented otters will be fighting it out with Norman rabbits on the streets of the UK, some girl will win a prize for being more real than the other contestants in a Reality TV show, there will be funny stories in the media about people moving into bunkers in the Chilterns with a few tins of beans, unknown backbenchers will be desperately trying to be seen by exiting the House of Commons wearing their most serious face, nipping around the corner and back again to try and appear in the background of a news report if possible.... a pop star will die and somewhere a small dog will be run over by a car. There may be light showers.
 

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blah blah blah...which only exposes recedite, flav and the others for the tiny hysterical minority of unhinged lunatics they actually are....and always have been.

Hysterical WestBrit republican-bashing might have been good for the old media career, but as soon as it conflicts with actual Irish national interests it is quietly shelved.
What you fail to grasp is that we are only interested in the Irish national interests. I have not participated in the main Brexit thread, or any discussion that goes on about whether the UK will be either better off, or worse off, by various kinds of Brexit. My only interest is in how this country will be affected, and how to achieve the best possible outcome. Right now that means ditching the backstop and allowing May's deal to succeed.

You on the other hand, are so consumed with anti-Brit bigotry, that all you want to see is the worst possible outcome for the UK. You don't even care if we get dragged under with them.
So that's the difference between patriotism and bigotry.
There is much more to Irish patriotism than just being anti-British.
 

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Don't bother responding to flav's increasingly unhinged ravings. The guy is seriously unwell, and hasn't been living in reality for a good few years now. And the condition appears to be getting worse over time. His posts are just gibberish these days. Kindest thing to do is quietly ignore the lunatic mumbling in the corner, engaging only makes their condition worse.
I'm unhinged? Mister dribbling, wibbling, bead-rattling, craw-thumping, window licker, hurler on the ditch in NZ?

Physician, heal thyself..
 

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Despite denials, you could well be a closet knitter...
Ok then. There is more chance of me coming out of the closet about knitting than there is in Flav supporting a UI (well, one that was not part of the UK).
 

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What's interesting though is how unpopular this position really is. Even lots of traditionally FG anglophile/westbritish and anti-republican type politicians and media commentators, the kind of people you might have expected to be gurning and whinging about Ireland being all nassty and trickssy to our bestest pals ever in Britain, have kept their traps shut and rowed foursquare in behind the unified national strategy.

Which only exposes recedite, flav and the others for the tiny hysterical minority of unhinged lunatics they actually are....and always have been.

Hysterical WestBrit republican-bashing might have been good for the old media career, but as soon as it conflicts with actual Irish national interests it is quietly shelved. Which shows just how sincere most of those people were in their routine fulminations in the first place.

Ah the cynicism of media/politics. Morons like recedite flav and Dame will got to their graves not understanding at all how much they were played for fools by opportunist careerists.



:roflmao:

Great line, I may steal that one for use in real life
Anti-Sinn Féin rhetoric is simply off topic. As is your silly anti-"West-Brit" rhetoric, for the simple reason that your pigeon hole marked for evil "West Brits" has been revealed to be almost completely empty through the Irish debate on the Brexit issue.
 

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Anti-Sinn Féin rhetoric is simply off topic. As is your silly anti-"West-Brit" rhetoric, for the simple reason that your pigeon hole marked for evil "West Brits" has been revealed to be almost completely empty through the Irish debate on the Brexit issue.
You're worse to bother
 

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And another is New Zealand :roflmao:

Brexiteers are some craic. Thundering morons without a single fncking clue about anything reality-based whatsoever. None of them are living in the real world at all, they just spout meaningless or completely factually deranged slogans and cliches over and over and over and over again, and are totally impervious to mere facts.

It's not a rational policy position. It's a retreat from reality into some bonkers Victorian-themed religious cult.

I know I've never been accused of being shy and retiring before, but even in real life I make no effort at all to hide my disdain and contempt for these wretched fundamentalist lunatics. They rank somewhere between Mormons and paedophiles on my personal "skidmarks on the mouldy boxers of humanity" ranking system of dishonest dangerous utter scum.
Hehehehe. :lol:

Always telling it like it is.
 

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Brexiteers are some craic. Thundering morons without a single fncking clue about anything reality-based whatsoever. None of them are living in the real world at all, they just spout meaningless or completely factually deranged slogans and cliches over and over and over and over again, and are totally impervious to mere facts.
This.
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gleeful

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Brexiteers are some craic. Thundering morons without a single fncking clue about anything reality-based whatsoever. None of them are living in the real world at all, they just spout meaningless or completely factually deranged slogans and cliches over and over and over and over again, and are totally impervious to mere facts..
Its possible they are as stupid as they sound (and some of them certainly are) but they also hide their real plans behind a layer of idiocy. Some of them realise that Brexit will destroy the British economy and they plan to use the chaos to remake their country after. They want to return to a Dickensian society, one where the upper class rule is unquestioned and workers have no rights. Its like cargo-cult economics as they think this will restore the British Empire.
 

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Its possible they are as stupid as they sound (and some of them certainly are) but they also hide their real plans behind a layer of idiocy. Some of them realise that Brexit will destroy the British economy and they plan to use the chaos to remake their country after. They want to return to a Dickensian society, one where the upper class rule is unquestioned and workers have no rights. Its like cargo-cult economics as they think this will restore the British Empire.
They're not stupid. They have calculated the advantages free from EU directives and so on, an opportunity to recast the UK in some sort of pseudo past/future model and always casting the EU as the bogeyman to be blamed for all ills, hence war like rhetoric. I look forward to the day when the British public see through them, and rip the UK into something like a modern republic and ditch the Neanderthal like past institutions etc into the North Sea. All we can do is be patient and hold the line, may take some time, for the British public to get there.
 

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In the event of a no deal Brexit the British would also need to put customs posts at the border.
Absolutely untrue. WTO calls for adequate, verifiable and auditable control, that can be done anywhere in the North by pulling trucks over and inspecting manifest, declaration, contents. It is the ROI that will be instructed to operate a border specified by EU
 

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Absolutely untrue. WTO calls for adequate, verifiable and auditable control, that can be done anywhere in the North by pulling trucks over and inspecting manifest, declaration, contents. It is the ROI that will be instructed to operate a border specified by EU
You can't deliver an "adequate, verifiable and auditable control" by randomly pulling over trucks "anywhere in the North" whenever the Border is 500km and there are more than 200 Border Crossings.

Smugglers could set up breakdown warehouses on either side of the Border and bring the contraband across in cars, vans, motorbikes, in buses, trains, speedboats, the works.

Have you ever driven to Clones?

The road meanders in and out of the North the whole time.
 

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You can't deliver an "adequate, verifiable and auditable control" by randomly pulling over trucks "anywhere in the North" whenever the Border is 500km and there are more than 200 Border Crossings.

Smugglers could set up breakdown warehouses on either side of the Border and bring the contraband across in cars, vans, motorbikes, in buses, trains, speedboats, the works.

Have you ever driven to Clones?

The road meanders in and out of the North the whole time.
WTO is not about having a Berlin Wall and doesnt care about car theft etc, it is about having "Trade" controls (which link back to quotas), how do you think the rest of the world manages? You think there is a que of trucks at the swiss border? There isn't even a gaurd at some of the Swiss / German crossings. You are talking about a border to combat crime etc, that's not WTO remit, that is political.
 

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