€9 billion needed over 10 years to fix the Health Service.

jake76

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Unless the entire thing was scrapped and built again from the ground up, that money would end up being largely wasted.

If any of you have dealt with the HSE, Dept of social welfare or Dept of justice, you would have an understanding about how badly these organisations/institutions are broken. It is complete muddling through by the good people in these services that keeps things going.
Agreed, it's the same as Aer Lingus and Ryanair, in the 1980's Aer Lingus unions, management and government would have said it was impossible to fly to London for less than £250. The HSE are Aer Lingus, we need to start a new Health Service which is flexible and wind down the HSE over 20 years.
 


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Still Waiting Ire @stillwaitingire

Letterkenny hospital grinds to a halt, zero trolleys available, patients in armchairs and floors!





The worker added: "(The) Emergency Department is in a mess this morning, (it's) a very sad sight for our hospital and staff."

The current mess in Donegal's largest hospital, comes hours before a tour of the facility by the Assistant Chief of the HSE.

It is believed that the Day Service Unit has been converted into a make-shift ward, forcing cancellations to all procedures today.

The MAU ward has also been turned into a ward to cope with the numbers of patients, while Casualty has been housing patients since yesterday.

"Shocking is the only word," the hospital worker said.


https://www.donegalnow.com/news/overcrowding-crisis-described-horrendous-hospital-grinds-halt/207664
 

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Gavan Reilly ‏@gavreilly
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Temple Street children's hospital - which this morning had 14 patients awaiting admission to its ED, including nine who had been there for 9+ hours - issues this statement




Thanks Gav
 

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Payroll overpayments in excess of €1m, €4.7m spent on goods and services without proper procurement, and weaknesses in oversight and monitoring of grants to outside agencies are among the concerns flagged in the 2017 annual financial statements of Tusla, the child and family agency.

You have to laugh...........
 

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I have a life.
Payroll overpayments in excess of €1m, €4.7m spent on goods and services without proper procurement, and weaknesses in oversight and monitoring of grants to outside agencies are among the concerns flagged in the 2017 annual financial statements of Tusla, the child and family agency.

You have to laugh...........
See HSE needs more managers, logistics, administrators....and a nurse.
 

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Payroll overpayments in excess of €1m

You never see reports stating that there were underpayments.

There is also a provision in Tusla accounts for €34m for legal claims :( :(
 

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Access primary health-care

:DPrimary health-care reduces cost and improves service.
Check-ups help you stay healthy.
The Dublin Dental University Hospital, unlike most Hospitals, offers Primary health-care.
Since 2010, to access the service, patients must meet teaching needs. Putting teaching need before patient need is odd. I can find no precedent.

Evidence, that teaching at the Dental Hospital has become a moral code of necessity, is compelling,
1. Dentalhospital.ie/patient-information/access-to-services
2. Irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1963/si/129 (function b)
3. Ombudsman case HB2/15/0767 - www.polarisoffice.com/d/2RQKRLoG
 
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Fat arse nurses still whining for more pay - and threatening sick patients
with strike action in January.

Absolutely disgusting. :mad2:

Billions going down a black hole...

The Public Sector Unions are holding this country to ransom.

And Left and liberal hipsters out of the traps to back them up
at every opportunity. :rolleyes2:
 

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Our sick would be better off if we had politicians who know what they were doing.
There are plenty of EU countries with vastly superior health services to ours that we could look at instead of the UK.

One issue is the unwillingness of politicians and senior civil servants to challenge powerful vested interest groups within the health service.

Brexit offers the possibility of further EU integration and we need to look at a pan european health service. Certainly i'd be happy for my taxes to go directly to berlin in order to access a german run health service rather than have the HSE squander it.

A comparion of salaries for medical staff accross the EU along with examining spending on administration and management would be a good starting point.
 

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That's a fact often trotted out but
There is a historical underfunding in infrastructure to catch up on and I suggest wages and admin , especially on external consultants is out of kilter with the per head spending elsewhere
Lastly , few other public health care systems have a system where it's in the medical staffs interest -the same staff-to force you to go private to see the same consultant
You also have a distance to go in persuading the Southern folk that a UI is a good thing.
30 COUNTY COUNTY IRELAND
Let's settle for a 30 county Ireland with Belfast an open city and 2 counties for diehard Unionisfs!
 

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I watched an old RTE documentary on video the other night. Noel Browne was talking about vested interests. He specifically mentioned the IMA and the vested interests and their resistance at that time to the concept of an NHS. It is till there and when you have those who are considered as leaders in their sector

( i.e. consultants) profiteering from a dysfunctional public service and making fortunes in their public subsidized private practices what example , what leadership does this provide to the rest of the HSE. Then again when you have a political leadership who are even more greedy, money grabbing, with people such as Lowry, Bailey, O Doherty, Burke, the list continues , with undeserved and inflated salaries, allowances, and pensions paid for by the taxpayer what can you expect?. The early politicians such as Cosgrave, Lemass, even Dev would be turning in their graves. They had a commitment that none of the thieves today can demonstrate. Must stop blood pressure rising...
 


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