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jmcc

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If he understood Irish literature, he would be aware of what poem followed that one. And for the sake of those scumbag collaborators in FF and their banker and developer cronies, it is one that hopefully will not come to pass.

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If he understood Irish literature, he would be aware of what poem followed that one. And for the sake of those scumbag collaborators in FF and their banker and developer cronies, it is one that hopefully will not come to pass.

Regards...jmcc
If you're referring to Easter 1916, I'd say 'amen'.

But I think he wrote a few poems in between.
 

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Well, I've no doubt that we'll oust FF, but we can't vote out our EU overlords. They told us we voted incorrectly, please try again, last time we tried that one!

I think the one thing this is likely to do is turn Ireland's previously pro-European voters into extremely justified pragmatic eurosceptics overnight. It's public relations nearly worthy of Victorian Britain !
 

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Well, I've no doubt that we'll oust FF, but we can't vote out our EU overlords. They told us we voted incorrectly, please try again, last time we tried that one!

I think the one thing this is likely to do is turn Ireland's previously pro-European voters into extremely justified pragmatic eurosceptics overnight. It's public relations nearly worthy of Victorian Britain !
Yes, FF\FG\Labour are just the native collaborators, the cowardly footmen, one the same as the next.
 

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From the article.

The Irish are waiting to express their feeling towards Fianna Fáil in the polling booths. It is almost worth moving to Ireland and registering to vote, so you can share the immense satisfaction that will come when they throw the scoundrels out.
 

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From the article.
Excellent article: m.guardian.co.uk

"Democratic politicians cannot maintain the status quo and expect to survive. Fearing impending defeat, Angela Merkel proposed that bond holders should be liable for their failures after 2013. The markets went wild at the very notion that banks could be held to account, but she has not given up on the idea. The Irish Labour party will be in government soon. Its leaders have already denounced the EU's insistence that the Irish take on private debt. If the terms are as disastrous as they claim, they must surely revoke them when they are in power.

Margaret Thatcher had the annoying ability to produce quotes that even her opponents had to admire. "The trouble with socialism," she said, as she began the west's experiment with reckless banking, "is that you eventually run out of other people's money." We have learned the hard way that it is the trouble with financial capitalism too."
 

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I think the one thing this is likely to do is turn Ireland's previously pro-European voters into extremely justified pragmatic eurosceptics overnight.
Here's a Europhile who voted "yes" in BOTH Lisbon referenda in spite of the political parties and from a committed belief that the (non-economic) European idea would continue to drag us into the modern world - which in the past it frequently did.

But the bailout terms (and the ECBs insistence on punitive rates) make it pluperfectly clear that the bankers, not the visionaries, own the EU now.

They are guaranteeing enormous destruction to the entire original concept of the EU, but they don't even realise it. By nature they read numbers, when pressed they can at a pinch (and in several languages, very fluently) read words - but they still (in the international manner of number freaks) can't read people at all.

They have killed the original European project here. Stone dead. A number of commentators on the mainland of Europe are already realising that. The blowback to the continental EU will be as destructive as blowbacks ever are.

Sauve qui peut.
 

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But the bailout terms (and the ECBs insistence on punitive rates) make it pluperfectly clear that the bankers, not the visionaries, own the EU now.
Always did. You were just naive.
 

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From the article.

The Irish are waiting to express their feeling towards Fianna Fáil in the polling booths. It is almost worth moving to Ireland and registering to vote, so you can share the immense satisfaction that will come when they throw the scoundrels out.
It would be a false satisfaction. The Irish are getting ready to simply replace one gang of scoundrels with another - FG\Labour. Plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose.
 

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Here's a Europhile who voted "yes" in BOTH Lisbon referenda in spite of the political parties and from a committed belief that the (non-economic) European idea would continue to drag us into the modern world - which in the past it frequently did.

But the bailout terms (and the ECBs insistence on punitive rates) make it pluperfectly clear that the bankers, not the visionaries, own the EU now.

They are guaranteeing enormous destruction to the entire original concept of the EU, but they don't even realise it. By nature they read numbers, when pressed they can at a pinch (and in several languages, very fluently) read words - but they still (in the international manner of number freaks) can't read people at all.

They have killed the original European project here. Stone dead. A number of commentators on the mainland of Europe are already realising that. The blowback to the continental EU will be as destructive as blowbacks ever are.
Sauve qui peut.
You're in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. The fact that the euro project didn't put mechanisms into place to prevent 20+ nations doing their own thing with a single currency doesn't mean that the European Project is dead... just that it needs proper regulation.
 


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