Extension of 50-50 'anti-Protestant'

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Well it seems he has succeeded in dragging the thread completely off topic with his sectarian muppetry.
This forum used to be filled with Republicans...

Now merle and me seem the only ones left....
 


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Many postsers from the South have said they find Unionists friendlier than NI's Nationalists.
Get this straight.....The likes of paid liars such as the now departed Peter Hart and of course Connor Cruise O'Brien and that whole ilk didnt and dont like Unionists as such...They lick up too you because they hate Irish Republicanism seeing that the ruling class of the 26 counties is firmly alligned with NATO Imperialism...And also because they hate the idea of proles with guns.
 
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It would seem that about 55-45 would be a fair and accurate reflection of the status quo. Considering the traditional difficulties of recruitment and distrust, 50-50 does not appear to be an unreasonable remove from this.
 

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I must admit, I do miss michaelhenry and Glenshane. Have they been "disappeared?"
I really worry about Glennshane.....He was an old guy and I really hope he is still alive...Some of his posts were absolutely surreal topics...His ideas on education were really mad....He HATED teachers...
 

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Glennshane was a Unionist though....He wanted to keep the Union with the Brits...Just wasnt fond of prods....His conversations here with someone who must have been Eoghan Harris pretending to be a protestant doctor from Kildare or something were REALLY funny....
 

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Glennshane could have dealt with BC.
 
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This song says it all....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMO6GpVG_Xw]YouTube - Ciaran Murphy - They'll always be the RUC to me.[/ame]
 

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Interesting. No mention of British. We have a few of them, but they don't seem to qualify as foreign.

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Those are just the numbers from that news piece about the "new irish"

The offical 2006 figures for non-irish nationals by birthplace are also in the census they are...

Garda Síochána by birthplace 2006

Total 12,229
Northern Ireland 52
England Wales 390
Scotland 25
Poland 2
Lithuania 2
Other EU 11
Other European countries 4
USA 39
Africa 7
Asia 6
Other countries 18


http://www.cso.ie/census/census2006results/volume_8/volume_8_occupations_entire_volume.pdf
 

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FIVE YEARS AGO.

I SAID:






Coming from you that isn't a compliment.
So how would a catolhic police man feel about the recent dropping of bombs at a school by loyalists? Man you are so defensive of your own tribe that you even try to convince they other side you are the better option
 

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Interesting. No mention of British. We have a few of them, but they don't seem to qualify as foreign.

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Well there's plenty of Jackeens in the PSNI.
I doubt they're classed as foreign either.
 

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The Garda didn't deny it, in fact they said they didn't know.
The Gardai don't know how many protestants (or catholics, muslims, seiks, jews etc) are in the Gardai because they don't record what religion recruits are. As I have already said it is illegal (constitutionally and in law) in this country (and in most other civilised countries) to discriminate on the basis of religious belief.

If you can 1) provide unequivocal evidence of the number of protestants in the Gardai and 2) prove that this number is so because of discrimination, then please do so.

Otherwise please do not attempt to perpetrate this unionist myth of discrimination against protestants in Ireland. Just because you are obsessed with religion and comparmentalising people due to their religion in NI doesn't mean the rest of the world does it.
 

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Much like your earlier ludicrous claims about only 14 Protestants being in the Gardai, this one relies on An Phoblacht, an Irish Independent report from 10 years ago about corruption in the Donegal division (which was investigated and dealt with), and an unsubtaniated source from "infowars.org" complaining about officers using "family connections" to improve promotion prospects - shock, horror.

At least when B.C. is trolling, he manages to bring something half-interesting to the table. :lol:
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Anecdotal.

From looking at the posts of people from the Republic on this forum.

Surely they can't be wrong??
Give us an example of these posts, and how are these representative of the entire island?

Do you have any scientific evidence apart from this dubious "anecdotal" evidence?

As picador said there are nice people and not so nice people in every community of people. To suggest otherwise is racist.
 

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Otherwise please do not attempt to perpetrate this unionist myth of discrimination against protestants in Ireland. Just because you are obsessed with religion and comparmentalising people due to their religion in NI doesn't mean the rest of the world does it.
Theres more than one way to skin a cat. don't be so naive john. no, there was no state sponsored culling of Protestants in the south, there was no state sanctioned mass discrimination of protestants in the south (no doubts the state and the church hierarchy quitely turned a blind eye to and even encouraged it in some instances), but there was without any doubt an air about the place which made people feel it was ok and justified to discriminate against protestants (always for some other reason though, never because they were protestant..that was just a co-incidence ;) ). there was a "You're one of them" attitude going around, particularly in rural areas. Any incident that is highlighted, people brush it aside as a "one off" or the actions of an unrepresentative minority. conveniently. there's a reason for the "keep your heads down and say nothing" of the southern protestant community. remember that southern protestants who said they don't feel irish (or who didn't feel irish which is more the case nowadays) were made feel like outsiders and "not really properly Irish' by the people around them. by the way, why is it always (or almost always) roman catholics or ex roman catholics and nationalists saying there was no discrimination against the southern minority? even when members of that minority say they felt discriminated against or made feel like outsiders looking in?


50seconds into this as one example
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiUr9ysJ_lc"]YouTube - Graham Norton - Who Do You Think You Are? (1/5)[/ame]

I grew up in roughly the same area as him (a little more rural and to the west) and it was the same for virtually every Prod family I knew there...foreign blow-ins and converts excluded of course
 
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The Gardai don't know how many protestants (or catholics, muslims, seiks, jews etc) are in the Gardai because they don't record what religion recruits are. As I have already said it is illegal (constitutionally and in law) in this country (and in most other civilised countries) to discriminate on the basis of religious belief.

If you can 1) provide unequivocal evidence of the number of protestants in the Gardai and 2) prove that this number is so because of discrimination, then please do so.
Oh dear, have we touched a raw nerve? Have you bothered reading this thread?

Garda Síochána and army occupations
total = 19,454
RC = 18,762 (16,892)
138 = church of ireland (576)
8 = muslims (149)
52 = other christian (134)
13 = Presbyterian (108)
8= orthodox (95)
11 = Methodist (56)
49 = other (266)
326 = non beliefer (855)
61 = not stated (323)
The figures in brackets are what they should be, in the absence of descrimination. Think you should maybe try the old 50/50 thing for a while.

Otherwise please do not attempt to perpetrate this unionist myth of discrimination against protestants in Ireland. Just because you are obsessed with religion and comparmentalising people due to their religion in NI doesn't mean the rest of the world does it.
Have you even the vaguest interest in ever having a united Ireland? It's up to you to demonstrate that there isn't descrimination today, and admit the wrongs of the past, and we aren't talking about the rest of the world, we are talking about Catholic Eire.
 

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Have you even the vaguest interest in ever having a united Ireland? It's up to you to demonstrate that there isn't descrimination today, and admit the wrongs of the past, and we aren't talking about the rest of the world, we are talking about Catholic Eire.
Of course there was sectarianism in the 26 counties...The Free State was imposed bloodly by the most backward elements of the previous national liberation movement....But the Republican movement which resisted it to the death has nothing to answer for in relation to it. Neither state should have come into existence. Both were are crap.
 


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