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Facebook new charges


Schomberg

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Non starter. Charge money, and people leave to the next free one.
 

Mikeoc

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Facebook is already a corporate behemoth that couldn't care less about the people that use it. It's all about harvesting personal data for the benefit of advertisers. Charging people to send messages will only hasten the inevitable decline. Sooner or later, a new social networking site will spring up and catch the public imagination the way FB once did. Zuckerberg's monster will then curl up and expire. Not that he's likely to lose much sleep over it, now that he has a few billion tucked away.
 

Tea Party Patriot

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This one seemed a bit off the wall:

There’s even the option to pay more to grab the attention of your favourite celebrity, with the charge levied on a sliding scale depending on their fame and popularity.
Now wouldn't one think that participating celebrities would have to be paid quite a lot not to just abandon FB, I know I wouldn't co-operate if someone was trying to make money off my name without a significant percentage of the take by way of financial compensation.
 

Dame_Enda

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Easy enough to get around it. Just send FB messages only to other FB users. Or use the same social network as the third party to send them messages. Simples.
 

Tea Party Patriot

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Anyway the day they start charging anything substantial is they day the exodus will begin to google+ or whatever new fad comes along. Facebook are falling into the trap that they think they have achieved such a critical mass that people will now pay, that is the rock they will perish on if they proceed towards charging.
 

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They are trying to monetize the business, under pressure from shareholders, but this is utterly ridiculous. Facebook is already passé and I wouldn't expect it to retain anything like its current presence within the next two to three years.

It may not go the way of Bebo, but a big fall is coming. They've become the definition of "corporate", and not in a good way.
 

brim4brim

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Ah its just to grab headlines. FB won't charge for services but allowing people to pay to send you messages to your inbox instead of auto-redirecting them to another folder would be suicide.
 

Tea Party Patriot

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They are trying to monetize the business, under pressure from shareholders, but this is utterly ridiculous. Facebook is already passé and I wouldn't expect it to retain anything like its current presence within the next two to three years.

It may not go the way of Bebo, but a big fall is coming. They've become the definition of "corporate", and not in a good way.
They are rapidly becoming a definition of big brother, do people actually know they now save all your searches on facebook as well.
 

Limerick Lad

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I wouldn't mind if they started charging people who send unwanted invitations to join anything with the name "ville" attached, etc. I have a three strikes and you're out policy, unfriended and blocked!
 

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They are rapidly becoming a definition of big brother, do people actually know they now save all your searches on facebook as well.
I am sure they always did. Google has done so, so has Bing, so has Yahoo and I'm sure even Altavista did as well.
 

jmcc

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I am sure they always did. Google has done so, so has Bing, so has Yahoo and I'm sure even Altavista did as well.
Altavista was relatively simple by comparison with the modern search engines. The web was a lot smaller then.
 

Dadaist

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Altavista was relatively simple by comparison with the modern search engines. The web was a lot smaller then.
The recording of searches is a very simple and almost resource free process. I would be very surprised if Altavista didn't save their logs.
 

jmcc

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The recording of searches is a very simple and almost resource free process. I would be very surprised if Altavista didn't save their logs.
Actually it is not. Logging data on a service with hundreds, if not thousands of queries per second requires good design and hardware resources. The cost per GB of harddrive space was a lot higher then than it is now. From what I remember of Altavista's design, it didn't use queries in the feedback loop.

The rough specs for the Altavista SE are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altavista
 
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Tin Foil Hat

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Facebook?
Isn't that that yoke where you put your personal details up on the interwoogie and, in return, you are treated to an endless stream of mind-numbing tedious brain-farts and photographs of other peoples children?
And they're planning on charging for this?
Bwahahahaha.
 

Dadaist

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Social Network Analysis, buying intentions all sorts of stuff can be determined from queries. That's what makes them so valuable.

Social network analysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wafflers in the Irish "technology" press have absolutely no idea of what can be done with this kind of data and how intrusive it can be.
I doubt that very much. Even my 11 year old niece knows what they do with the data.
 

jmcc

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I doubt that very much. Even my 11 year old niece knows what they do with the data.
Perhaps she could explain it to the "technology" journalists then. :) The quality of some the information can be mined from this data is extremely high due to the context. Most of the people who claim to be technology journalists haven't a clue about technology and are just from Arts (rather than STEM) backgrounds. They have very little technological knowledge upon which to draw when trying to understand technology or any of its specialisations. Datamining and super crunching is an even more specialised field and beyond the usual buzzwords (Big Data, datamining etc) they just haven't a clue about what can be done with the data.
 
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