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Families having to wait upto 10 months for welfare payment.


Neutron

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The government are causing severe heartache for many families trying to get back to employment. One of the key payments for low paid families are Family Income Supplement payments (FIS).

Anyone returning to work to claim these payments are having to wait on average around 10 months to receive these payments which is causing severe hardship for many families who have done the right thing and have found employment only to be messed around by the government.

Another thing that should be pointed out is that these payments are going to paid as lump sum payments which will be a huge drain on solcial welfare figures.

FATHER-OF-THREE Stephen Kinsella spent two years out of work until he finally secured a job (on a three-month rolling contract) at a local factory in May 2012.


It was happy news, especially as his wife Mary was expecting their fourth child. However, the Carlow resident would still have money worries, despite the weekly income. As a result, he discovered that he is entitled to the Family Income Supplement and applied for the payment in June this year.


At the time of application he was told it would take up to 20 weeks for a decision to be reached.
This week, the Department of Social Protection said it would be March 2013 before the application is processed.

The department confirmed that at the end of last month there were 15,131 applications awaiting decisions. This included 7,267 new FIS applications and 7,864 renewals.


The delay has been caused by the continued strong claim intake, according to a spokesperson.

Families told to wait up to 10 months for welfare payment
 

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It's not good enough that the govt haven't increased staffing appropriately to meet demand.

It's not good enough that he and wifey felt it appropriate to have a fourth child when he was unemployed for at least 15 months.
 

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2 years unemployed with the employment future still temporary and uncertain and they decided to bring another and 4th child into this world ?
 

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It's not good enough that the govt haven't increased staffing appropriately to meet demand.

It's not good enough that he and wifey felt it appropriate to have a fourth child when he was unemployed for at least 15 months.
Do you suggest a ban on sex for the unemployed?

No birth control is 100%.

Also this problem has been going on for a very long time, you never see revenue with back logs!
 

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Do you suggest a ban on sex for the unemployed?

No birth control is 100%.

Also this problem has been going on for a very long time, you never see revenue with back logs!
If he was using condoms and his wife was on the pill then I fully apologise and suggest he should seek employment on a stud farm.
 

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If he was using condoms and his wife was on the pill then I fully apologise and suggest he should seek employment on a stud farm.
If any positive awareness can be gained from this dicussion it's that Condoms are far too expensive. Yet some gombeens in the Dail suggested raising VAT on them to pay the banksters. They should be at zero when you consider the cost of raising a child.
 
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It's not good enough that the govt haven't increased staffing appropriately to meet demand.

It's not good enough that he and wifey felt it appropriate to have a fourth child when he was unemployed for at least 15 months.
Sorry but this is rubbish. Unemployment is temporary, waiting too long to have a child is permanent. Not you nor anyone else gets to complain about people having the families they want, no matter how important or superior you think you are.
 

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If he was using condoms and his wife was on the pill then I fully apologise and suggest he should seek employment on a stud farm.
Whats your problem here sync?

THe guy has done the right thing, he has gone and found a job. He isnt lying around having sex making kids, alls he wants now is the government support offered, it not right or fair that he should wait upto 10 months to receive this.

Its also not just about him, its about the thousands of families having to wait 10 months for support when they can least afford it.

We also have the huge amount of money that isnt being included in social welfare figures, is this just a ruse to con the IMF/EU Troika when we inform them about our welfare figures?
 

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Sorry but this is rubbish. Unemployment is temporary, waiting too long to have a child is permanent. Not you nor anyone else gets to complain about people having the families they want, no matter how important or superior you think you are.
I'm paying for his child that he chose to have while not being able to afford to keep the 3 he already had. So I get to complain about it. When he pays for his child and becomes a net contributor to the economy I'll stop.
 

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Show me a welfare payment where there are no lenghty timelines before awarding a claim!

Carer's allowance/benefit, domicilliary carers allowance, disability allowance, invalidity pension, jobseekers benefit and allowance, one family payment....you'd be lucky if your claim is processed within 12 months after application!
 

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If only Bi Cuin were still here. He'd know what to do.
 

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I'm paying for his child that he chose to have while not being able to afford to keep the 3 he already had. So I get to complain about it. When he pays for his child and becomes a net contributor to the economy I'll stop.
You dont get to complain because this guy is now working. You also dont get to complain because his children will be paying your OAP.

And how are you a net contributor, your always on P.ie.
 

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The man is already depending on family income supplement to support his exising 3 children so the last thing he should be doing is fathering a 4th.
 

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You dont get to complain because this guy is now working. You also dont get to complain because his children will be paying your OAP.

And how are you a net contributor, your always on P.ie.
I'll provide for my own pension ta. I didn't complain because he's working or not working. If he's working and dependent on state benefits to provide for his kids he shouldn't having any more kids now either.

The govt should absolutely resource the welfare offices appropriately to deal with the massively increased demand over the past couple of years.

By the same token, individuals need to take responsibility for their own actions. This couple choosing to have a 4th child when he was unemployed and they already had 3 they couldn't afford is moronic.
 

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I'll provide for my own pension ta. I didn't complain because he's working or not working. If he's working and dependent on state benefits to provide for his kids he shouldn't having any more kids now either.

The govt should absolutely resource the welfare offices appropriately to deal with the massively increased demand over the past couple of years.

By the same token, individuals need to take responsibility for their own actions. This couple choosing to have a 4th child when he was unemployed and they already had 3 they couldn't afford is moronic.
Shows how much you know if you think by having a state pension te workers of this country dont effect it.

By the way, you do realise a huge number of people in the country rely on some sort of state benefit? I would take a guess that half of it is claiming something.

I have no doubt even you have claimed something.
 

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Do you know the difference between "claim" and "depend"?
 

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Do you know the difference between "claim" and "depend"?
Yes.

Do you think your the sort of person who could be described as

"Im alright jack, let them eat cake"
 
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