Far Right On The Rise in Coleraine?

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National Front spokesman Mark Brown has been generating column inches in the Coleraine Times of late. In his latest statement the far-right spokesperson, inaccurately described as a 'public representative' in last week's CT, credited a local SDLP representative for boosting NF recruitment in the County Derry town. It seems the Front have found a bogeyman in wanna-be 'left-wing looney' John Dallat, who recently spoke out on that old bugbear - the flying of loyalist flags in mixed residential areas.

Undeterred, Dallat has condemned the local Ulster Defence Association, which he claims is continuing to recruit youngsters to carry out acts of sectarian vandalism in the town; and has called upon the International Monitoring Commission to investigate the paramilitary organisation's activities.
 
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There are ways of referring to lunatic fringers without bringing attention to them. You can just say undesirable elements were turning impressionable kids to crime. These groups feed on the oxygen of mainstream recognition. You can always spot a loon party the second they purport to speak for anyone at all, and then say

However, elections are of secondary importance to myself and to the leadership.
 

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There are ways of referring to lunatic fringers without bringing attention to them. You can just say undesirable elements were turning impressionable kids to crime. These groups feed on the oxygen of mainstream recognition. You can always spot a loon party the second they purport to speak for anyone at all, and then say
The local paper is reproducing NF statements unchallenged and seemingly unedited in 'news' articles. It also wrongly describes an unelected NF spokesman as a 'public representative' and gives his comments greater prominence then those of an actual public representative, McQuillan of the DUP.

What to hell is going on at the Coleraine Times?
 

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Another big yawn of a thread. The National Front? That's so early 80's.
But it's true that they were popular with some loyalists at the time.
Now?? This is more SevenStars territory.
 

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Another big yawn of a thread. The National Front? That's so early 80's.
But it's true that they were popular with some loyalists at the time.
Now?? This is more SevenStars territory.
Isn't part of the RCP / LM philosophy that you subscribe to that fascist groups are OK?
 

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Another big yawn of a thread. The National Front? That's so early 80's.
But it's true that they were popular with some loyalists at the time.
Now?? This is more SevenStars territory.
It is tedious rubbish with the sole purpose of conflating loyalism and the NF. A complete non story if ever there was one.

I do wonder if pic is some bored old retired tin pot republican news journo, certainly writes in that style.
 

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Fascism should be more accurately termed the "Far Left", given its support for collectivism and and an increased welfare-state.
 

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It is tedious rubbish with the sole purpose of conflating loyalism and the NF. A complete non story if ever there was one.
There's undoubtably an overlap between loyalism and extreme British nationalism. For instance the UDA and the NF both like loyalist flags and they both hate John Dallat. Mark Whatever-his-name-is also identifies the NF with opposing what he calls 'anti-Protestantism'. The strongly unionist Coleraine Times reports his bile almost verbatim.

I imagine it an embarrassment to so-called 'respectable' unionists like yourself.
 
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Fascism should be more accurately termed the "Far Left", given its support for collectivism and and an increased welfare-state.
So Franco,Hitler and Mussolini were really communists! Thanks for pointing that out,will have to amend my history books.Just to think of those poor misunderstood blue-shirts,sure they were on our side all along:rolleyes:
 

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NF has no real support anywhere in NI ,they would be on the outermost fringes of loyalism and regarded as oddballs within that community .They ocasionally pop up in very Prod towns and appeal to a fringe youth element . Yes ,bizarrely agree with Pic , why is local press pubicising views of some unheard,unelected person.Maybe Merle should try it with his local paper !!!
 

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God blessdamn Orwell.
 

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The National Front have targetted Coleraine in the past. In the mid-1980's they attempted to organise a rally in Coleraine and about 50 of them turned up. They were faced with a counter-demonstration of over 1,000 and ran off with their tails between their legs.
 

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NF has no real support anywhere in NI ,they would be on the outermost fringes of loyalism and regarded as oddballs within that community .They ocasionally pop up in very Prod towns and appeal to a fringe youth element . Yes ,bizarrely agree with Pic , why is local press pubicising views of some unheard,unelected person.
Both the NF statement's that have been given in-depth and uncritical treatment by the Coleraine Times have been stinging attacks on John Dallat. I would surmise that means that while the NF might be slightly distasteful they are nowhere near as awful as John Dallat. The ends justifies the means.
 

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The National Front have targetted Coleraine in the past. In the mid-1980's they attempted to organise a rally in Coleraine and about 50 of them turned up. They were faced with a counter-demonstration of over 1,000 and ran off with their tails between their legs.
Yes, the UDA is a far bigger greater threat to the populace in that area. It is worrying that they may be recruiting teenagers. Catholics and foreigners beware!
 

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John Dallat needs to look at his own profile as being an irritant to local Prods ,he is entitled to express his opinion but he sometimes is perceived to be just plain annoying .If he worked more with local reps from other parties he might achieve more.SDLP reps in other towns are generally held in high regard by both communites as local councillors/MLA's .
 

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There's undoubtably an overlap between loyalism and extreme British nationalism. For instance the UDA and the NF both like loyalist flags and they both hate John Dallat. Mark Whatever-his-name-is also identifies the NF with opposing what he calls 'anti-Protestantism'. The strongly unionist Coleraine Times reports his bile almost verbatim.

I imagine it an embarrassment to so-called 'respectable' unionists like yourself.
Coleraine Times - A lovely paper. How fondly I remember the picture they printed of the fella who led the mob that bricked me and three others out of our house on the 11th July. There he was chuckling with his mates at a 12th parade on crutches.
 

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John Dallat needs to look at his own profile as being an irritant to local Prods ,he is entitled to express his opinion but he sometimes is perceived to be just plain annoying .If he worked more with local reps from other parties he might achieve more.SDLP reps in other towns are generally held in high regard by both communites as local councillors/MLA's .
Dallat is under pressure - he has to out-shinner the shinners.
 

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John Dallat needs to look at his own profile as being an irritant to local Prods ,he is entitled to express his opinion but he sometimes is perceived to be just plain annoying .If he worked more with local reps from other parties he might achieve more.SDLP reps in other towns are generally held in high regard by both communites as local councillors/MLA's .
In my recollection John Dallat was very, very watery. It says a lot about that part of the world that he is viewed as a hate figure.
 


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