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Fatwa accepts transgender marriages

dresden8

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Religion of peace and all that but........

Pakistan's transgender community cautiously welcomes marriage fatwa - BBC News

A religious decree declaring transgender marriage to be legal has been cautiously welcomed in Pakistan, but activists say attitudes still need to change.

The decree, or fatwa, was passed on Sunday by a group of clerics.

It said that according to Islam transgender people with "visible signs" of being male or female may marry someone of the opposite sex.

But those with "visible signs of both genders" may not marry, it said.

The 50 clerics, part of the little-known Tanzeem Ittehad-i-Ummat body based in Lahore, also said any act intended to "humiliate, insult or tease" transgender individuals should be considered a crime under Islam.
Surely even our muslim haters must welcome this............
 


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I suppose its a small step in the right direction especially since in much of the Islamic world clerics are the real rulers.
 

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'The 50 clerics, part of the little-known Tanzeem Ittehad-i-Ummat body based in Lahore, also said any act intended to "humiliate, insult or tease" transgender individuals should be considered a crime under Islam.
The fatwa is not legally binding in any way.'
Islam is FAR more accepting of transexualism than Christianity is in general- however for me personally that is an argument against Islam.
 

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Islam is FAR more accepting of transexualism than Christianity is in general- however for me personally that is an argument against Islam.
Iran which is predominantly Shia Islam has the 2nd most sex reassignment surgeries in the world. There is a history of the 3rd gender in Indonesia. However Saudi Wahhabism has spread which has to more intolerance.
 

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Islam is also much less judgmental about abortion and the use of embryonic stem cells etc than Christianity is. Casual observers (and indeed many journalists/commentators) make the error of attributing the origin of these rulings into some underlying and little seen strain of progressive liberalism within Islam. They are utterly wrong. They are a result of the nature of the two religions. One being a fairly rigid moral framework primarily based on principals and the other mainly consisting of things expressly forbidden or allowed. Such nuance of course is beyond most.
 

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Iran which is predominantly Shia Islam has the 2nd most sex reassignment surgeries in the world. There is a history of the 3rd gender in Indonesia. However Saudi Wahhabism has spread which has to more intolerance.
You know why? Because the Ayotallah, being the sole supreme authority under the Shia system, had a whim. - Rather than murder people for being gay, for being "a sin against God", they would be given a choice. They could undergo a sex change to rectify the matter, or be murdered. A fairly stark choice.
 

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Surely even our muslim haters must welcome this............
That tired old conflation of critics of Islamicism (and these critics often include Muslims btw) with "muslim haters".

As for this decree, it is merely stating that if God has given you a penis, even if you look like a woman, you may marry someone with a vagina. And vice versa. It is entirely in keeping with what can be interpreted from the Quar'an.

It is not really a tolerance. They are saying if you are a man but you have a vagina, then you may have feelings for other men. If you don't, then you are committing a travesty and must die for it, as usual.

In fact, they are in a way reinforcing the logic of the "sin" of homosexuality, and its due punishment under Islamicism.
 

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The reasoning behind this from the religious stand-point seems to be to 'normalise' the person, e.g. a gay man undergoes surgery and then marries another man. The outward appearance is of a woman marrying a man.
 

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Iran which is predominantly Shia Islam has...

... However Saudi Wahhabism has spread which has to more intolerance.
Keep on drinking the Shia political kool-aid, there, Ne0ica. - Hard to understand the world in any other terms than familiar and reassuring dualities, isn't it? - However I can assure you that Shia theocracy is just another side of the same coin of Sunni and Wahhabist theocracies, notwithstanding that there are differences.
 

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Transgenderism has always been seen as a medical issue in the Muslim world - and as entirely different from homosexuality.
 


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