Fertility doctors and their sperm

Ardillaun

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Here is yet another case of a fertility doctor accused of using his own sperm to inseminate patients:

Ottawa fertility doctor implanted own sperm in clients 11 times, lawsuit alleges | CBC News

Since we are on an Irish website, I should add that these are just allegations at the moment that will be robustly contested, refuted utterly, shown to be completely legal and truth will prevail etc. etc. but ones with a fair bit of evidence behind them all the same.

Anyway, I can’t count how many examples of similar behavior I have read about over the years. It’s a truly outrageous betrayal of trust and is almost like a syndrome at this stage. With any luck, rigorous DNA testing and an appropriately lengthy stretch behind bars for offenders will do away with it. Obviously, only a microscopic number of such specialists were involved but one is too many.
 
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Aren't I glad I never set out to be inseminated in Ottowa all the same. Phew. That was a close one.
 

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Here is yet another case of a fertility doctor accused of using his own sperm to inseminate patients:

Ottawa fertility doctor implanted own sperm in clients 11 times, lawsuit alleges | CBC News

Since we are on an Irish website, I should add that these are just allegations at the moment that will be robustly contested, refuted utterly, shown to be completely legal and truth will prevail etc. etc. but ones with a fair bit of evidence behind them all the same.

Anyway, I can’t count how many examples of similar behavior I have read about over the years. It’s a truly outrageous betrayal of trust and is almost like a syndrome at this stage. With any luck, rigorous DNA testing and an appropriately lengthy stretch behind bars for offenders will do away with it.
Don't they say that experts tend to specialize in the field in which they have the most personal issues themselves? I think it was said about psychiatrists in particular and I'm not sure how fair it is as a rather sweeping generalization, but it's true that this thing of (male) fertility doctors impregnating their patients with their own sperm does raise interesting questions.

I wonder are there any women in the business, and if so would they ever be tempted to use their own eggs?
Maybe that is just too complicated. Or maybe women are less prone to "God complexes"? :lol:
 

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Sure as we are hearing constantly from a small but vocal minority in Ireland called the O'Taliban aren't Babbeh Babbeh as near as makes no difference. Just a minor bit of eyebrow raising if the Inseminator Doctor is as ginger as an O'Connor around the time of christmas parties.
 

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Don't they say that experts tend to specialize in the field in which they have the most personal issues themselves? I think it was said about psychiatrists in particular and I'm not sure how fair it is as a rather sweeping generalization, but it's true that this thing of (male) fertility doctors impregnating their patients with their own sperm does raise interesting questions.

I wonder are there any women in the business, and if so would they ever be tempted to use their own eggs?
Maybe that is just too complicated. Or maybe women are less prone to "God complexes"? :lol:
Or Adam complex? You’d have to wonder whether a certain sort of person was attracted to this line of work, consciously or unconsciously, by the opportunity presented. I’d guess the risk of a female going down this strange road would be way less.
 

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I suppose one can become a bit single-minded in some jobs. Bit hard to claim it was accidental, mind.

Cleaner dusting around the little bottles, shifting the doctor's private collection about a bit, you can see how it could happen.
 

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i thought it was going to be this one, i wonder if the doctor was 6ft :rolleyes: the kids shouldnt complain that much, they wouldnt exist otherwise

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/my-biological-dad-turned-out-to-by-my-moms-fertility-doc/


A Washington state woman says she was shocked to learn through an Ancestry.com test that her biological father was her parent’s fertility doctor.

Kelli Rowlette, 36, took legal action against reproductive specialist Dr. Gerald E. Mortimer after he was revealed as her DNA match through the site, the Daily Beast reported.

The lawsuit claims the doctor was aware he used his own sperm to impregnate Rowlette’s mother when she and her husband went to him in the early 1980s.

“Dr. Mortimer fraudulently and knowingly concealed his use of his own genetic material in the Procedure,” according to the complaint. “Dr. Mortimer knew Kelli Rowlette was his biological daughter but did not disclose this.”

To increase chances of fertility, the couple agreed to mix the husband’s sperm with other matching donors, noting they preferred college students more than 6 feet tall.
 

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Joe Pesci's family are refusing to talk to the media.
 

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Personal arrogance presumably is the motivating factor.
 

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To be a child born through fertility malpractice is an odd one. You can't really be too upset because the reason you exist is because of the freak using his own junk.
 

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Pat Mustard complex ?
 

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When you think of it probably Arthur Guinness is the spiritual father of most of the nation. Like Genghis Khan in a glass.
 

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If true it has potentially massive implications. There is a strict protocol regarding how many children can be born from a single donor. In effect I think that the limit is ten. The statistical potential for future quasi-siblings to meet and mate rises very sharply after that. The whole thing becomes hazardous when you throw in the element of mutual genetic attraction.
 

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I suppose one can become a bit single-minded in some jobs. Bit hard to claim it was accidental, mind.

Cleaner dusting around the little bottles, shifting the doctor's private collection about a bit, you can see how it could happen.
The guy is a bit of a cluts. Spills the sample. Thinks crap what do I do now?
 

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Or Adam complex? You’d have to wonder whether a certain sort of person was attracted to this line of work, consciously or unconsciously, by the opportunity presented. I’d guess the risk of a female going down this strange road would be way less.
It could be a bit difficult for a female to donate sperm alright.
 

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The guy is a bit of a cluts. Spills the sample. Thinks crap what do I do now?
Either way as the case progresses he may have to reflect on the fact that the legal apparatus at some point in Ottowa is going to officially define him as a tosser.
 

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Woman walks into a fertilisation clinic, asks doctor how this works, doctor says we thaw little bottles of frozen sperm and insert the sperm into your vagina and bobs your uncle.OK says the lady, I'll have a bottle of that, doctor says i'm afraid we are out of bottles, but we do have some on draught.....
 


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