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FF complaining about the bank guarantee.


Luchador

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Let's clear up the issue at hand here.

In 2008, Fianna Fail, after years of hyperinflating the property bubble with one hand and sticking the other in the cookie jar, committed their final act of treason in office by signing up to guarantee their friends' banks for hundreds of billions, at our expense over decades of course, at the cost of every aspect of the working and coping classes' lives. (The FF trolls can whinge and whatabout all they want, but they cannot argue or deny this, nor should we respond to their tactics.)

In 2012, the same party has the temerity and gall to publicly speak out against the bank bailout they created, and its effects on society. Basing their existence on "providing vigorous opposition", the FF party loves to score points against the current shower, who in their own incompetence and weakness, are simply patsies for their predecessors' agreements.

What kind of show is this? How can a party base itself on nothing but populism?

And even if they had the credibility to do so... how can a party protest its own policies? Genuine question.
 


flavirostris

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And even if they had the credibility to do so... how can a party protest its own policies? Genuine question.
Why not? They're already protesting the property tax that they signed up to in government. Because it's just "wrong" at the moment you know.
 

Luchador

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Why not? They're already protesting the property tax that they signed up to in government. Because it's just "wrong" at the moment you know.
You know what else is wrong? Not taxing the rich.

Wonder if FF will start protesting that. Let's see how long it takes them to go bankrupt. :)
 
M

MrFunkyBoogaloo

Let's clear up the issue at hand here.

In 2008, Fianna Fail, after years of hyperinflating the property bubble with one hand and sticking the other in the cookie jar, committed their final act of treason in office by signing up to guarantee their friends' banks for hundreds of billions, at our expense over decades of course, at the cost of every aspect of the working and coping classes' lives. (The FF trolls can whinge and whatabout all they want, but they cannot argue or deny this, nor should we respond to their tactics.)

In 2012, the same party has the temerity and gall to publicly speak out against the bank bailout they created, and its effects on society. Basing their existence on "providing vigorous opposition", the FF party loves to score points against the current shower, who in their own incompetence and weakness, are simply patsies for their predecessors' agreements.

What kind of show is this? How can a party base itself on nothing but populism?

And even if they had the credibility to do so... how can a party protest its own policies? Genuine question.
1. The FF guarantee ended. FG and Labour, quite readily, provided another one. It is their guarantee now.

2. FF are scumbags and will say anything to get elected. You don't become one of the most "successful" political parties by telling the truth.

3. It is the show created, and maintained, by FF and FG - helped along by Labour - to keep them in the lifestyle they've become accustomed to.


FF are a cancer and we all know what should happen to that.
 

Edo

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Meh

FF have always been able to do this

Remember this when in Gov

[video=youtube;GoXYTHlWXvQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoXYTHlWXvQ[/video]

to this when in Opposition




Standard operating procedure...........

Tis a pity...new politics me arse
 

DownTheyGo

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Let's clear up the issue at hand here.

In 2008, Fianna Fail, after years of hyperinflating the property bubble with one hand and sticking the other in the cookie jar, committed their final act of treason in office by signing up to guarantee their friends' banks for hundreds of billions, at our expense over decades of course, at the cost of every aspect of the working and coping classes' lives. (The FF trolls can whinge and whatabout all they want, but they cannot argue or deny this, nor should we respond to their tactics.)

In 2012, the same party has the temerity and gall to publicly speak out against the bank bailout they created, and its effects on society. Basing their existence on "providing vigorous opposition", the FF party loves to score points against the current shower, who in their own incompetence and weakness, are simply patsies for their predecessors' agreements.

What kind of show is this? How can a party base itself on nothing but populism?

And even if they had the credibility to do so... how can a party protest its own policies? Genuine question.
Nothing to clear up. Standard Modus Operandi.

Nothing will change until Edo picks up the mantle and runs with it.
 

Eoin Coir

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Fianna Fail are Forever Frauds. They may have convinced themselves they never caused the crash/guarantee.
 

Luchador

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Nothing to clear up. Standard Modus Operandi.

Nothing will change until Edo picks up the mantle and runs with it.
So long as he imposes punitive wealth taxes on those found guilty of fiscal impropriety in the boom, as well as their families to be sure.
 

friendlyfire

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They are a blight and should never get near Government again....but with the current incumbent and as minister Hayes has stated "We need FF" they will always get a helping hand!!!
 

Edo

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So long as he imposes punitive wealth taxes on those found guilty of fiscal impropriety in the boom, as well as their families to be sure.
I was thinking of doing a "hunger Games" themed thingy - reserve an island in the Upper Erne - fence it off from the rest of humanity and put the Quinns, the Anglo boys, Mick Wallace, the FF cabinet and all the rest of the failed developers and the management and boards of the banks that lend to them onto the island and let them duke it out to be the last man standing - we could run a betting competition on it and get Vinny to dump the bore fest that is his current show and have him compere a panel of expert judges like McWilliams,Gurdiev, morgan Kelly etc etc about who is doing well etc etc - we could sell the TV rights abroad - can see big interest in Germany,Holland and Finland for starters...........
 

Luchador

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I was thinking of doing a "hunger Games" themed thingy - reserve an island in the Upper Erne - fence it off from the rest of humanity and put the Quinns, the Anglo boys, Mick Wallace, the FF cabinet and all the rest of the failed developers and the management and boards of the banks that lend to them onto the island and let them duke it out to be the last man standing - we could run a betting competition on it and get Vinny to dump the bore fest that is his current show and have him compere a panel of expert judges like McWilliams,Gurdiev, morgan Kelly etc etc about who is doing well etc etc - we could sell the TV rights abroad - can see big interest in Germany,Holland and Finland for starters...........
Less The Hunger Games and more Battle Royale. ;-)
 

venusian

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Let's clear up the issue at hand here.

And even if they had the credibility to do so... how can a party protest its own policies? Genuine question.
It is a very genuine question you ask, apart from the sheer loathsomeness of the FFer's behaviour...what comes in even worse, yea , at a lower level of hypocrisy and depravity is FF Nua i.e. truly the lowest level of political pond life being FG, their wholesome support and enactment of all of the FFer's polices, the FFger's and their butt wipes "labour" enacting all of FF's fiscal austerity polics whilst engaging in their own fetid cronyism as they loudly lie and proclaim that they are doing things differently!
 

kerdasi amaq

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Heh, Fianna Fáil are at their best when they're sitting on the opposition benches. We have to keep them there in the national interest.
 

sethjem7

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Let's clear up the issue at hand here.

In 2008, Fianna Fail, after years of hyperinflating the property bubble with one hand and sticking the other in the cookie jar, committed their final act of treason in office by signing up to guarantee their friends' banks for hundreds of billions, at our expense over decades of course, at the cost of every aspect of the working and coping classes' lives. (The FF trolls can whinge and whatabout all they want, but they cannot argue or deny this, nor should we respond to their tactics.)

In 2012, the same party has the temerity and gall to publicly speak out against the bank bailout they created, and its effects on society. Basing their existence on "providing vigorous opposition", the FF party loves to score points against the current shower, who in their own incompetence and weakness, are simply patsies for their predecessors' agreements.

What kind of show is this? How can a party base itself on nothing but populism?

And even if they had the credibility to do so... how can a party protest its own policies? Genuine question.
It's political opportunism that depends upon the short term memory of the general public, and you know what? It will probably work, we are a country that is knee deep in cyclical politics between parties of no real difference.
 

DownTheyGo

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It's political opportunism that depends upon the short term memory of the general public, and you know what? It will probably work, we are a country that is knee deep in cyclical politics between parties of no real difference.
Hence, the reason why, a seriously new party is needed and will do well.
 

Luchador

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Hence, the reason why, a seriously new party is needed and will do well.
Here, what's the craic with this Sli Nios Fearr crowd?

Also, how many dozens of white-power "nationalist" movements are actually registered as political parties? That could be worrying: if they somehow stop fighting for a minute, all five or six white nationalists racist homophobes could actually do something.
 

storybud1

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I was thinking of doing a "hunger Games" themed thingy - reserve an island in the Upper Erne - fence it off from the rest of humanity and put the Quinns, the Anglo boys, Mick Wallace, the FF cabinet and all the rest of the failed developers and the management and boards of the banks that lend to them onto the island and let them duke it out to be the last man standing - we could run a betting competition on it and get Vinny to dump the bore fest that is his current show and have him compere a panel of expert judges like McWilliams,Gurdiev, morgan Kelly etc etc about who is doing well etc etc - we could sell the TV rights abroad - can see big interest in Germany,Holland and Finland for starters...........
good idea but the problem is that they are all the same bunch of thieving greedy gits so they will probably work together, if you also introduced ordinary people that will be evicted from the family home and gave them 24 hours and a baseball bat and let them loose it would be a home run.

Imagine regular people with baseball bats chasing bankers and politicians, justice and retribution, it is not fantasy, it may happen yet.
 

Ringo Starr

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Why did this thread start, was it something to do with the recent polls and how competent M Mc Grath looked tonight on TWIP!

The facts of the matter are that every party backed it except Labour, who done so as they wanted an amendment and something to do with powers being given. Not the possible risk of bank solvency.

This website as well as every other site is over run with anti establishment posters that don't reflect society. You all keep arguing amongst each other while FF go to the doors and convince REAL people
 
M

MrFunkyBoogaloo

Why did this thread start, was it something to do with the recent polls and how competent M Mc Grath looked tonight on TWIP!

The facts of the matter are that every party backed it except Labour, who done so as they wanted an amendment and something to do with powers being given. Not the possible risk of bank solvency.

This website as well as every other site is over run with anti establishment posters that don't reflect society. You all keep arguing amongst each other while FF go to the doors and convince REAL people
I am a real person (believe it or not) and for every door one of yours knocks on I knock on another to remind them of FF's many,many misgivings and as far as your "anti-establishment" label.. M'eh..
 

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