FF only 1% behind FG in SBP/Red C September 14th poll.

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What is Poor Suir View talking about?
 


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Don't believe the polls. That said I think S.F really need to try and get Stormont back up and running. They must work harder at getting some kind of Irish language act or Irish culture act.
F.F should be ahead in the polls really too. F.G have been in power for nearly 9 years. But F.G have got a lot of influence in media circles, and this helps them. Slán
 

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The Irish people are endorsing MM as the man to lead the country through Brexit and beyond. When FF rescued Ireland in 2010 the people did not give the credit deserved. FG have put everyone through 10 years of austerity. Now they are fleeing FG in terror for competent government. The electorate are showing themselves to be most sophisticated.

Hopefully Taoiseach Martin gets off to good start in May repairing the damage and giving the people the government they deserve. (y)
Arse licking MM is a kinda pathetic.

This is a politician who was at the cabinet table for more than a decade when decisions were made which bankrupted the country and resulted in the country having to be bailed out in 2010.

That caused the 10 years of austerity.

We are all still living with the consequences of government expenditure having to be drastically reduced ever since.

Why is the leader of the opposition being allowed to get away with blaming everyone else for the consequences of the decisions made when he and his colleagues were in almost unchallenged power for over a decade prior to the collapse in 2009-10?
 

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FG 29% (+1)
FF 28% (+4)
Independent 13% (-1)
SF 12% (-1)
Green 7% (-)
Labour 6% (+1)
Soc Dems 1% (-1)
Sol/PBP 1% (-1)
Aontú 0% (-2)
Renua 0% (-1)

Hardly a 'surge' considering FF were actually ahead of FG in the local elections (though not the Euros of course). Really the only issue is which of them can get marginally ahead and then whether that one has enough to form some sort of coalition with Lab, the Greens, various pliable Indos and maybe the SD's if their 2-3 seats are of arithmetic value.

Nothing else of note - SF and the far left still doing dismally as in the locals and Euros, while Lab have stabilised at around 6% (again in the locals, their vote was quite concentrated in certain areas and non-existent elsewhere).
 

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Don't believe the polls. That said I think S.F really need to try and get Stormont back up and running. They must work harder at getting some kind of Irish language act or Irish culture act.
F.F should be ahead in the polls really too. F.G have been in power for nearly 9 years. But F.G have got a lot of influence in media circles, and this helps them. Slán
Comedy gold.
Poor "redneck" has posted,
"Don't believe the polls".
And then he posts,
"FF should be ahead in the polls".
All in the same post!
Many thanks.
 

SuirView

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Arse licking MM is a kinda pathetic.

This is a politician who was at the cabinet table for more than a decade when decisions were made which bankrupted the country and resulted in the country having to be bailed out in 2010.

That caused the 10 years of austerity.

We are all still living with the consequences of government expenditure having to be drastically reduced ever since.

Why is the leader of the opposition being allowed to get away with blaming everyone else for the consequences of the decisions made when he and his colleagues were in almost unchallenged power for over a decade prior to the collapse in 2009-10?
What's your opinion on the poor SF "slump"?
 

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Hardly a 'surge' considering FF were actually ahead of FG in the local elections (though not the Euros of course). Really the only issue is which of them can get marginally ahead and then whether that one has enough to form some sort of coalition with Lab, the Greens, various pliable Indos and maybe the SD's if their 2-3 seats are of arithmetic value.

Nothing else of note - SF and the far left still doing dismally as in the locals and Euros, while Lab have stabilised at around 6% (again in the locals, their vote was quite concentrated in certain areas and non-existent elsewhere).
Any reasons for the poor SF "slump"?
Is the leadership an issue?
 

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Don't believe the polls. That said I think S.F really need to try and get Stormont back up and running. They must work harder at getting some kind of Irish language act or Irish culture act.
F.F should be ahead in the polls really too. F.G have been in power for nearly 9 years. But F.G have got a lot of influence in media circles, and this helps them. Slán
No way are SF at 12%.

More like 7-8% max.
 

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None. They are all w@nkers. Party politics is the ruination of this country. Its always party above people. If that ever changes, so will I.
So you vote for Independents?
 

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Any reasons for the poor SF "slump"?
Is the leadership an issue?
Well apparently they've had an intensive 'review' their May performance, and they're going to be more 'solution-based' or something like that, from now on. The leadership will certainly be an issue if they do not improve in the GE from this year's debacle.

I think their main problem is that much of their message is aimed at two specific electoral bases - republican voters in border areas, and working-class voters in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and a few larger provincial towns. They have maxed out their vote among the former and cannot grow much more here, plus they are vulnerable to leakage to Aontu from the more conservative among them. The latter either didn't bother to vote in May or their economic circumstances have improved and they have switched to FF or possibly the likes of the SD's.
 

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More seats on Dublin city council that Soros Fein.
I think that SF may have become infected with the Labour virus of trying to be too politically correct for the Dublin media and neglecting its traditional voterbase.
 

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Comedy gold.
Poor "redneck" has posted,
"Don't believe the polls".
And then he posts,
"FF should be ahead in the polls".
All in the same post!
Many thanks.
A POOR attempt at humour LOL
 

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What's your opinion on the poor SF "slump"?
A lack of Stormont is not helping them. Also Irish mainstream media is full of FFg people. RTE current affairs, Newstalk, Indo group, INM, Denis O Brien media, are all Fine Gaelers. So there is not a lot of dissenting noises.
It is much the same in UK, where the Tories dominate BBC, Murdoch group and so on. It is not easy for Jeremy Corbyn when you have BBC and Murdoch group reporters going through his thrash, for example, looking for stories on him.
RTE current affairs and INM have reporters and journalists whose only job is to follow senior S.F officials around. Hoping for a scandal. Sad to say.
 

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A POOR attempt at humour LOL
No,
Your post was excellent!
I'll be reminding you in the future regarding your contradiction!
Thanks again,
 

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A lack of Stormont is not helping them. Also Irish mainstream media is full of FFg people. RTE current affairs, Newstalk, Indo group, INM, Denis O Brien media, are all Fine Gaelers. So there is not a lot of dissenting noises.
It is much the same in UK, where the Tories dominate BBC, Murdoch group and so on. It is not easy for Jeremy Corbyn when you have BBC and Murdoch group reporters going through his thrash, for example, looking for stories on him.
RTE current affairs and INM have reporters and journalists whose only job is to follow senior S.F officials around. Hoping for a scandal. Sad to say.
So you reckon that the reasons for the poor SF "slump" is because of "A lack of Stormont" and the "Irish mainstream media"?
Any opinion on Mary Lou's leadership?
 

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Any reasons for the poor SF "slump"?
Is the leadership an issue?
They really need Mehole "Ratman" Martin, don't they? A "leader" who led what was once the "The Republican Party" up FG's arse. The same "leader" of FF who was saying that SF should take their seats in Westminster as if the whole 1919 First Dail and the War of Independence never happened. Martin is FF's John Redmond. He should stick to doing dodgy impersonations of Chinese people.
 


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