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FF to oppose Abortion Bill


Keith-M

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FF to oppose Abortion Bill?

Just hearing that a majority of the FF PP have voted to vote against legalising abortion. It's good to see one party at least having a moral compass.

Independent.ie ‏@Independent_ie6m
Politics update: Fianna Fail poised to oppose abortion legislation as majority against it at party meeting. More to follow on independent.ie

Link when it's confirmed.
 
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Happytolearn

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Just hearing that a majority of the FF PP have voted to vote against legalising abortion. It's good to see one party at least having a moral compass.

Link when it's confirmed.
Let's hope their compass leads them south - past the Kerry coast and into the Atlantic Ocean.
 

harshreality

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Have they articulated any specific part or section of the legislation that they are opposed to?
 

Frank Galton

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It's the 1983-87 oppo strategy all over again -- denounce austerity, any liberalization of family law, and govt performance on Norn Iron -- just till they're back in power to implement the same policies.
 

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Have they articulated any specific part or section of the legislation that they are opposed to?

It's still very much "breaking news". Martin now has two choices, respect a democratic vote or allow a free vote, but given that FG are whipping, I can't see FF doing otherwise.
 

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So FF oppose legislation for the very ammendment to the Constitution that they supported.... more inconsistency from FF who are a vapid, populist party whose social policies don't add up the same way their economic policies didn't add up

cYp
 

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So FF oppose legislation for the very ammendment to the Constitution that they supported.... more inconsistency from FF who are a vapid, populist party whose social policies don't add up the same way their economic policies didn't add up
That's just plain wrong.

FF have consistently been opposed to the X case judgment and the suicide clause in particular. For God's sake, they introduced 2 separate referenda to get rid of the damn thing!

Opposing this Bill would be 100% consistent with their position for the last 20 years. Get your facts straight before you criticise them.
 

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FF pandering to the 15% of the population opposed to legislating for the X case, reaffirming the parties position as a fringe entity for time to come.

Have they articulated any specific part or section of the legislation that they are opposed to?
That will be the task of the spinners after the PP meeting.
 

Lar G Rection

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FF have a moral compass? Seriously, you need to lay off whatever it is that you are smoking.
 

YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

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yeah right we forget to include the section about legislating post-natal abortion applied to current and former FF members...
 

meriwether

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The intellectuals (I use that word loosely) were removed in 2011.

When you're left with Willie O'Dea, Timmy Dooley, Barry Cowen and a number of anonymous gobsh1te senators, that starts to become a sizable rump in a small party.
 

harshreality

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Unsurprising really since they seemed quite happy with the status quo while in power. Why would they be any different in opposition.
 

ShankillFalls

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It's good to see one party at least having a moral compass.
Sorry, and just to be absolutely clear, you are talking about Fianna Fáil here right? "A moral compass"? In fairness to them I don't think even the most die hard FFer would dare to claim that they've ever had such a thing.
 

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Who owned the coin that they tossed ?

I'd say there was some scuffle for it when it hit the floor and stopped spinning.... :)
 

edwin

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Just hearing that a majority of the FF PP have voted to vote against legalising abortion. It's good to see one party at least having a moral compass.

Independent.ie ‏@Independent_ie6m
Politics update: Fianna Fail poised to oppose abortion legislation as majority against it at party meeting. More to follow on independent.ie

Link when it's confirmed.
Excellent news! Kelleher's statement had me a little concerned. Good to see the parliamentary party supporting the strong pro life stance of the membership. To do otherwise would be an unthinkable betrayal.
 

Keith-M

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So FF oppose legislation for the very ammendment to the Constitution that they supported.... more inconsistency from FF who are a vapid, populist party whose social policies don't add up the same way their economic policies didn't add up

cYp
FF tried to bring in legislation that would protect the lives of mothers but would not have allowed suicide but were narrowly thwarted by a bizarre coalition of people would (1) wanted potential suicide used as an excuse for killing he unborn and (2) people who didn't want any kind of abortion legislation. In effect FF are sticking to the policies they had in 2002.

It is FG who have moved to the side of the pro-abortionists. Labour in fairness to them were at least consistently pro-abortion.
 

beazlebottom

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Just hearing that a majority of the FF PP have voted to vote against legalising abortion. It's good to see one party at least having a moral compass.

Independent.ie ‏@Independent_ie6m
Politics update: Fianna Fail poised to oppose abortion legislation as majority against it at party meeting. More to follow on independent.ie

Link when it's confirmed.
Putting FFianna FFraud and 'Moral compass' in the same sentence, suggests a strangely warped view of morality and ethics (or ettics to quote the great Knobend Ahern himself).
 
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