FF want to start censoring social media

flavirostris

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FF want to jail and fine people for spreading 'fake news' on social media. You could be fined up to 10,000 or face 5 years in jail.

Is their real motivation the fact that there is a lot more criticism of Fianna Fail online than you will find in the mainstream press?

By cracking down on the internet, FF could limit people's free speech to criticise them.

FF were reported to be incensed by an internet report that their TDs were cheering a possible election.

"Evidence suggests that an army of fake social media accounts is being amassed to disrupt the democratic process in the future, with journalists and prominent public figures highlighting an upsurge in the number of dubious accounts following them on social media platforms."
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/five-years-in-jail-for-spreading-fake-news-under-ff-proposal-36375745.html
 


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FF's big challenge at the next election will be it's not too distant past.

FG will be responsible for the "present" so people will naturally rebel against that.

The MSM has suffered collective amnesia in respect to FF's abject performance in government, so realistically if FF can clamp down on the pesky kids and their social media, then there's a decent change they'll do well.
 

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There are opinion pieces, there are unverified claims and there are claims that are verified. Now, depending on the subject and depending on your perspective, anyone can claim that, any story fitting into the aforementioned, is fake news. So the point of this bill is what exactly?
 

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FF want to jail and fine people for spreading 'fake news' on social media. You could be fined up to 10,000 or face 5 years in jail.

Is their real motivation the fact that there is a lot more criticism of Fianna Fail online than you will find in the mainstream press?

By cracking down on the internet, FF could limit people's free speech to criticise them.

FF were reported to be incensed by an internet report that their TDs were cheering a possible election.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/five-years-in-jail-for-spreading-fake-news-under-ff-proposal-36375745.html
TBF
A 'bot' would be recognised in Irish law as any item of software which uses 25 or more accounts or profiles online to run automated tasks.
The proposed law states that any person who knowingly uses a bot, or causes a bot to be used, in such a way as to cause multiple online profiles to act in a political way, will be guilty of an offence.
isn't unreasonable.

But not sure if it is enforceable.
 

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TBF


isn't unreasonable.

But not sure if it is enforceable.
FF were incensed by an internet report that FF TDs were cheering a possible election? This was confirmed by Regina Doherty , so was not "Fake news" .
 

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FF want to jail and fine people for spreading 'fake news' on social media. You could be fined up to 10,000 or face 5 years in jail.

Is their real motivation the fact that there is a lot more criticism of Fianna Fail online than you will find in the mainstream press?

By cracking down on the internet, FF could limit people's free speech to criticise them.

FF were reported to be incensed by an internet report that their TDs were cheering a possible election.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/five-years-in-jail-for-spreading-fake-news-under-ff-proposal-36375745.html
That won't suit many of their proponents on p.ie...
 

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There are opinion pieces, there are unverified claims and there are claims that are verified. Now, depending on the subject and depending on your perspective, anyone can claim that, any story fitting into the aforementioned, is fake news. So the point of this bill is what exactly?
The point is, is that the plebs should not go about disrespecting their betters.

It won't be tolerated. Unlike mass rape, abuse, slavery, corruption, wanton waste of taxpayers' money, nimbyism, localism, gombeenism, perjury, *insert other, seemingly perfectly allowable and forgivable in Ireland, nefarious activities here*

But when the plebs start posting stuff online throw the book at them.


FF would be funny if they weren't so utterly and mentally retarded. Collectively speaking of course.
 

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The Ministry of Truth [/B](in Newspeak, Minitrue) is the ministry of propaganda. As with the other ministries in the novel, the name Ministry of Truth is a misnomer because in reality it serves the opposite: it is responsible for any necessary falsification of historical events.
As well as administering truth, the ministry spreads a new language amongst the populace called Newspeak, in which, for example, "truth" is understood to mean statements like 2 + 2 = 5 when the situation warrants. In keeping with the concept of doublethink, the ministry is thus aptly named in that it creates/manufactures "truth" in the Newspeak sense of the word. The book describes the doctoring of historical records to show a government-approved version of events.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Ministry_of_Truth

"WAR IS PEACE," "FREEDOM IS SLAVERY," "IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH."

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so will ff force through the bill to keep propping up fg in a return favour.
 

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Perhaps FF could start by censoring out all members not in a fit state to appear on national TV, what a disgrace

[video=youtube;3elLmrCmOqo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3elLmrCmOqo[/video]
 

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FF want to jail and fine people for spreading 'fake news' on social media. You could be fined up to 10,000 or face 5 years in jail.

Is their real motivation the fact that there is a lot more criticism of Fianna Fail online than you will find in the mainstream press?

By cracking down on the internet, FF could limit people's free speech to criticise them.

FF were reported to be incensed by an internet report that their TDs were cheering a possible election.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/five-years-in-jail-for-spreading-fake-news-under-ff-proposal-36375745.html
A clampdown on fake news? From the party of odious spin and outright dishonesty? You're 'avin' a larf.
 
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flavirostris

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Perhaps FF could start by censoring out all members not in a fit state to appear on national TV, what a disgrace

[video=youtube;3elLmrCmOqo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3elLmrCmOqo[/video]
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Well meaning I'm sure, but it's absurd to think that one individual would have the ability to craft the right legislation, if legislation is even possible in such a complex domain. The consequences are potentially disastrous from getting it wrong. I imagine he'll be allowed take it so far, and his bill will die a death.
 

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Well meaning I'm sure, but it's absurd to think that one individual would have the ability to craft the right legislation, if legislation is even possible in such a complex domain. The consequences are potentially disastrous from getting it wrong. I imagine he'll be allowed take it so far, and his bill will die a death.
Yes - but its a harbinger of what is to come.....
 

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FF want to jail and fine people for spreading 'fake news' on social media. You could be fined up to 10,000 or face 5 years in jail.

Is their real motivation the fact that there is a lot more criticism of Fianna Fail online than you will find in the mainstream press?

By cracking down on the internet, FF could limit people's free speech to criticise them.

FF were reported to be incensed by an internet report that their TDs were cheering a possible election.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/five-years-in-jail-for-spreading-fake-news-under-ff-proposal-36375745.html
what about the fake news that the IMF weren't in dublin
 

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The ST had a front page piece on Sunday that mentioned FF being enraged by the report that their TDs had cheered at the prospect of an imminent election. They blamed the FG press office.

But several people have confirmed the story and named the TDs involved. I bet the barmen in Leinster Hse could tell a few stories.

Biffo being carried out after a budget speech etc.
 


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