FF'er Willie VS FG'er Regina and the State pension that discriminates against women

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In a disgusting FF/FG/"labour" discriminatory move against in the main, women, who have been discriminated against in pension terms for taking time off work to have and raise children, vital to society and to the workforce their reward is a lower state pension. I won't reiterate all of the details as to why due to government policy their contributory pension is lower but a right royal row has exploded between Willie O'Dea and Regina Doherty.

Regina Doherty should apologise for FF comment, says Willie O’Dea
"Dáil debate on Wednesday night provides the “appropriate” opportunity for Minister for Social Protection Regina Doherty to apologise for calling Fianna Fáil untrustworthy, party TD Willie O’Dea has said.
Speaking during an interview on RTɒs Morning Ireland Ms Doherty said the pensions issue was not discussed in Budget negotiations with Fianna Fáil, despite an assertion by Fianna Fáil’s Finance Spokesperson Michael McGrath that Dara Calleary had discussed the matter with Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe.
Fianna Fáil could not be trusted, she said, given that they “took credit for everything else in the Budget”.
Later Taoiseach Leo Varadkar confirmed the issue had indeed been raised in talks with Mr Donohoe.
“The remark from the Minister for Social Protection this morning about Fianna Fáil not being trustworthy, that doesn’t help government cohesion and that is why I am asking her, in a reasonable manner, to correct the record in that regard. She was happy enough to trust us to vote her in as a Minister,” said Mr O’Dea.
He said the Dáil debate tonight is an “opportunity” for Ms Doherty to apologise."


So will Willie get his apology from a grovelling Regina? Or will she greatly assist in the breakdown of the confidence and supply agreement between FF and FG?
 


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The notion of someone like Willie O'Dea demanding an apology for being characterised as being from an 'untrustworthy' party is an interesting one.

Even more interesting and surreal hearing Regina O'Doherty complaining of untrustworthiness.
 

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She is like a cat clawing at her own reflection in the mirror.
 

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Bit of luck the country would be a winner if both reversed over each other in Merrion Street.

Repeatedly.
 

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One thing that many will say about Willie O'Dea is that he is very trustworthy, the same can not be said about Regina or her boss Leo who would cut her pension without a second thought!

The only acceptible solution for this is that Regina resigns and the bluesh1ts immediately start paying those affected the correct pension rates and then before the end of the year set up a group in the social welfare department to calculate the arrears and interest due to those who have been discriminated by the state!
 

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Willie f*cking O'Dea. Offended at the comment 'untrustworthy'. I've heard everything now.
 

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Just for the record, Venerial's thread title, claiming that the State pension discriminates against women is completely incorrect.

The method of calculating the contributory state pension is exactly the same for every applicant, be they male or female.

The problem lies in the number of contributions accumulated by women over the course of their working lives. Seemingly, they now want to be paid a contributory pension for the years when they didn't (or couldn't) make a PRSI contribution - which, of course, is completely illogical and irrational, hence is supported by cretins like venerial, Scum Fein TDs and Willie O'Dee.
 

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The one comforting thought to be drawn from this minor spat between two undesirables is that they are even more unlikely to breed.

Let the nation rejoice.
 

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Lol.
 

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In a disgusting FF/FG/"labour" discriminatory move against in the main, women, who have been discriminated against in pension terms for taking time off work to have and raise children, vital to society and to the workforce their reward is a lower state pension. I won't reiterate all of the details as to why due to government policy their contributory pension is lower but a right royal row has exploded between Willie O'Dea and Regina Doherty.

Regina Doherty should apologise for FF comment, says Willie O’Dea
"Dáil debate on Wednesday night provides the “appropriate” opportunity for Minister for Social Protection Regina Doherty to apologise for calling Fianna Fáil untrustworthy, party TD Willie O’Dea has said.
Speaking during an interview on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland Ms Doherty said the pensions issue was not discussed in Budget negotiations with Fianna Fáil, despite an assertion by Fianna Fáil’s Finance Spokesperson Michael McGrath that Dara Calleary had discussed the matter with Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe.
Fianna Fáil could not be trusted, she said, given that they “took credit for everything else in the Budget”.
Later Taoiseach Leo Varadkar confirmed the issue had indeed been raised in talks with Mr Donohoe.
“The remark from the Minister for Social Protection this morning about Fianna Fáil not being trustworthy, that doesn’t help government cohesion and that is why I am asking her, in a reasonable manner, to correct the record in that regard. She was happy enough to trust us to vote her in as a Minister,” said Mr O’Dea.
He said the Dáil debate tonight is an “opportunity” for Ms Doherty to apologise."


So will Willie get his apology from a grovelling Regina? Or will she greatly assist in the breakdown of the confidence and supply agreement between FF and FG?
So! the thread is nothing to do with the injustice to women who took time to raise children. It's just am FF/FG cat fight.

Neither gang can be trusted. In fact there is no politician who can be trusted.

Roll out the Halifax Gibbet.

 
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So! the thread is nothung to do with the injustice to women who took time to raise children.

Or (as a more intelligent poster might write) the "injustice" to women who failed to contribute to the State's CONTRIBUTORY pension system and who now want to be paid for the years during which they didn't contribute.

Complete fukcing insanity.
 

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Just for the record, Venerial's thread title, claiming that the State pension discriminates against women is completely incorrect.

The method of calculating the contributory state pension is exactly the same for every applicant, be they male or female.

The problem lies in the number of contributions accumulated by women over the course of their working lives. Seemingly, they now want to be paid a contributory pension for the years when they didn't (or couldn't) make a PRSI contribution - which, of course, is completely illogical and irrational, hence is supported by cretins like venerial, Scum Fein TDs and Willie O'Dee.
Couldn't because the law of the land required them to leave the workforce when they got married.

It doesn't have to affect women only, for it to be discriminatory. If it is mainly women, or mainly men, it's discriminatory
 


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